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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:22 pm 
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According to the Times, in their list of the top 500 state schools in the country:

11th - CH Boys
21st - Wolverhampton Girls' High
25th - CH Girls
26th - Stratford Upon Avon Grammar
27th - KE Handsworth
39th - QM Grammar
40th - KE Five Ways
56th - Bishop Vesey
58th - KES, Stratford Upon Avon
58th (joint) - Adam's Grammar
78th - Sutton Coldfield Grammar
86th - KE Aston
116th - QM High


Obvious disclaimer - this isn't a definitive guide to the schools! But it is interesting...


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:28 pm 
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I think the reason CH Boys is so high is because of this data:

2012 examination results
A-level A*-Bs
91.6%
GCSE A*/A
85.3%

Interestingly, Tudor Grange (arguably the top non-Grammar in the area) has this data:

2012 examination results
GCSE A*/A
41.9%


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:14 pm 
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Apples and pears though; TG has a large proportion of children who aren't A*/A contenders whereas all CHB boys are.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:18 pm 
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You're absolutely right there Mike1880.

I looked up the results because I have been told on many occasions by parents that TG is 'the same as CH'.
I think it may be better to say that they are different schools with a different mix of pupil ability...


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:42 pm 
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The stats say that TG does an extremely effective job of educating everyone, whatever their ability, so probably not "worse than" but definitely not "the same as". It does make you question the value of league tables though when they're effectively just ranking schools in descending order of academic selection.

Mike


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:15 pm 
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These tables are NOT worth the paper they are printed on!

I'm more interested in the progress the children have made. If you select the top 10% you should be at the top and the results in Bucks seem to correlate with the % of children with 3 level 5s on entry.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:19 pm 
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There isn't an exact correlation here.
Is Wolverhampton Girls' High more selective/more difficult to gain entry to, than CH girls?
Is KE Handsworth more selective/ more difficult to gain entry to, than KE FW?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:21 am 
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Can you provide a link to the data so we can see where other hotly discussed schools on the forum feature such as QE Boys and HBS! DG


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:49 pm 
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http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/Parent_Power/

This is the list of the 'top' 500 state schools in the country.

You need to be a subscriber to see it. If you're not, just tell me the schools' names in full please (many have very similar names!) and I will look them up for you and post their ranking.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:15 pm 
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I would be interested in the date that these figures were initially printed.

I suspect that there will be a new table shortly now that the 2013 A-level results are available.


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