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I have tried to research this on the internet but it is difficult to find recent information. I am aware for WGHS from what the headmistress has said at the open days over the last 2 years the school had 13 girls who met their offers in 2013 and 5 in 2014.For QMHS it was 2 girls in 2014 from their website. It would be appreciated if forum users could advise upon this for the last 5 years for both girls and boys. It doesn't affect our school choices but it would allow an assessment of the Oxbridge outreach programme.

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I would immediately say that with such low numbers you cannot possible surmise if one school better than the other. It maybe more useful if you knew how many children went for the oxbridgea nd how many qualified, so if of 10 girls only 1 managed it that would be more meaningful, but with such low numbers an overall how many is not very useful.


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This is a specific question about the outreach programme. Not about assessments about the Grammar schools. Many qualities make a good school and those qualities change over time. I personally know boys and girls who have gone to Oxbridge over the last few years from a number of the schools, whether it be to study law from WGHS, history from KE Handsworth or engineering from QM Boys. I know Oriel was the link college for KE Handsworth and forms part of the outreach programme.This is to gain information in an informed way.
Our choices of school for my dd were made a number of weeks ago. If I make a negative comment about any school and your child goes to that school please don't take it personally they are made on our assessments and experiences. The whole purpose of the forum is to assist and inform. I wish to be informed.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:56 am 
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I was seeking this information for all the boys and girls in the Wolverhampton and Birmingham consortiums.

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he Good Schools Guide has, since 2004, had its own take on this, with its unique 'Cambridge Qualifying' marker. This includes only those pupils who would have reached a typical Cambridge university offer of A*AA in academic subjects or their equivalent at International Baccalaureate and/or Pre-U (Pre-U is a course designed, in conjunction with Cambridge, especially to stretch and challenge the very best students at advanced level - with top grades garnering UCAS points beyond A* at A level).

Independent schools dominate the top of the table, with London schools - St Paul's Girls School, Westminster School and St Paul's School - occupying the top 3 positions. Only one state school, the highly selective The Henrietta Barnett School makes the top 10. Independent schools account for 80% of schools in the top 200.

The results below have been averaged across 3 years of results - 2009/10/11. Subscribers to this website can compare schools - using measures such as the Cambridge Qualifying Standard and value-added. We also feature, on individual school pages (for subscribers), the universities students go on to and the courses they take.

A complete list of the subjects we include is found at the foot of this article.
The 'Cambridge Qualifier' - Top 200

School Town Type % getting A*AA or better in academic subjects
1 Saint Paul's Girls' School A GSG School London Independent 84.46%
2 Westminster School A GSG School London Independent 82.14%
3 Saint Paul's School A GSG School London Independent 77.59%
4 Wycombe Abbey School A GSG School High Wycombe Independent 75.38%
5 North London Collegiate School A GSG School Edgware Independent 73.42%
6 Magdalen College School A GSG School Oxford Independent 73.10%
7 Guildford High School A GSG School Guildford Independent 72.15%
8 Withington Girls' School A GSG School Manchester Independent 70.70%
9 Oxford High School GDST A GSG School Oxford Independent 66.36%
10 Henrietta Barnett School (The) A GSG School London State 65.43%
11 South Hampstead High School A GSG School London Independent 64.75%
12 Haberdashers' Askes Boys School A GSG School Elstree Independent 64.43%
13 Queen Elizabeth's School, Barnet A GSG School Barnet State 63.48%
14 Concord College A GSG School Shrewsbury Independent 63.37%
15 Tonbridge School A GSG School Tonbridge Independent 63.05%
16 Haberdashers' Askes School For Girls A GSG School Borehamwood Independent 62.76%
17 Eton College A GSG School Windsor Independent 61.70%
18 Royal Grammar School (Guildford) A GSG School Guildford Independent 61.48%
19 City Of London School For Girls A GSG School London Independent 61.12%
20 Winchester College A GSG School Winchester Independent 59.18%
21 Lady Eleanor Holles School (The) A GSG School Hampton Independent 59.10%
22 James Allen's Girls' School (JAGS) A GSG School London Independent 58.36%
23 Colchester Royal Grammar School A GSG School Colchester State 57.27%
24= Saint Helen And Saint Katharine A GSG School Abingdon Independent 54.97%
24= Stephen Perse Foundation/Perse Girls A GSG School Cambridge Independent 54.97%
26 Perse Upper School (The) A GSG School Cambridge Independent 54.30%
27 King Edward's School, Birmingham A GSG School Birmingham Independent 52.40%
28 Cheltenham Ladies' College (The) A GSG School Cheltenham Independent 51.97%
29 Pate's Grammar School A GSG School Cheltenham State 51.87%
30 Merchant Taylors' School A GSG School Northwood Independent 51.76%
31 Hampton School A GSG School Hampton Independent 51.28%
32 Saint Catherine's School A GSG School Guildford Independent 51.08%
33 Reading School Reading State 51.04%
34 Alleyn's School A GSG School London Independent 51.02%
35 Notting Hill And Ealing High School A GSG School London Independent 50.96%
36 Saint Mary's School Ascot A GSG School Ascot Independent 50.89%
37 Saint Mary's Calne A GSG School Calne Independent 50.63%
38 King Edward VI High School For Girls A GSG School Birmingham Independent 50.59%
39 Colyton Grammar School A GSG School Colyton State 50.32%
40 City Of London School A GSG School London Independent 50.25%
41 Cambridge Tutors College Croydon Independent 49.81%
42 Saint Olave's And Saint Saviour's Grammar School A GSG School Orpington State 49.34%
43 Manchester Grammar School (The) A GSG School Manchester Independent 48.95%
44 Saint Swithun's School A GSG School Winchester Independent 48.87%
45 Latymer School (The) A GSG School London State 48.77%
46 Royal Grammar School (Newcastle) A GSG School Newcastle upon Tyne Independent 48.32%
47 Saint Albans High School For Girls A GSG School St Albans Independent 47.98%
48 Putney High School A GSG School London Independent 47.93%
49 Tiffin Girls' School (The) A GSG School Kingston Upon Thames State 47.91%
50 Badminton School A GSG School Bristol Independent 47.81%
51= Harrow School A GSG School Harrow on the Hill Independent 47.42%
51= Radley College A GSG School Abingdon Independent 47.42%
53 University College School A GSG School London Independent 46.85%
54 City Of London Freemen's School A GSG School Ashtead Independent 46.25%
55 King Edward VI School (Southampton) A GSG School Southampton Independent 46.17%
56 Brighton College A GSG School Brighton Independent 46.00%
57 Channing School A GSG School London Independent 45.77%
58 Godolphin And Latymer School (The) A GSG School London Independent 45.76%
59 Headington School A GSG School Oxford Independent 45.62%
60 Kendrick School Reading State 45.32%
61 Charterhouse A GSG School Godalming Independent 45.24%
62 Sevenoaks School A GSG School Sevenoaks Independent 45.01%
63 Latymer Upper School A GSG School London Independent 44.38%
64 Bellerbys College Brighton Independent 44.32%
65 Saint Albans School A GSG School St Albans Independent 44.22%
66 Altrincham Grammar School For Girls A GSG School Altrincham State 43.92%
67 Highgate School A GSG School London Independent 43.88%
68 Tiffin School A GSG School Kingston Upon Thames State 43.56%
69 King Edward VI Grammar School, Chelmsford A GSG School Chelmsford State 43.47%
70 Wilson's School A GSG School Wallington State 43.45%
71 King Edward VI Camp Hill School For Boys A GSG School Birmingham State 43.10%
72 Abingdon School A GSG School Abingdon Independent 43.05%
73 Benenden School A GSG School Cranbrook Independent 42.96%
74 Bancroft's School A GSG School Woodford Green Independent 42.85%
75 Manchester High School For Girls A GSG School Manchester Independent 42.49%
76 King's School Canterbury (The) A GSG School Canterbury Independent 42.48%
77 Saint Helen's School A GSG School Northwood Independent 41.97%
78 Wimbledon High School A GSG School London Independent 41.84%
79 Sutton Grammar School A GSG School Sutton State 41.64%
80

King Edward VI Camp Hill School For Girls

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Birmingham State 41.47%
81 Loughborough High School A GSG School Loughborough Independent 41.24%
82 Queen's School (The) A GSG School Chester Independent 41.15%
83 Oundle School A GSG School Peterborough Independent 40.58%
84 King's High School Warwick Independent 40.38%
85 Eltham College A GSG School London Independent 40.31%
86 Saint Peter's School, York A GSG School York Independent 40.24%
87 Nottingham Girls' High School A GSG School Nottingham Independent 40.06%
88 Reigate Grammar School A GSG School Reigate Independent 40.05%
89 Dulwich College A GSG School London Independent 39.63%
90 Sir William Perkins's School A GSG School Chertsey Independent 39.38%
91 Lycee Français Charles De Gaulle (British Section) A GSG School London Independent 39.37%
92 Downe House School A GSG School Thatcham Independent 39.02%
93 Dr Challoner's High School A GSG School Little Chalfont State 39.02%
94 Warwick School A GSG School Warwick Independent 38.89%
95 Loughborough Grammar School A GSG School Loughborough Independent 38.78%
96 Leicester High School For Girls Leicester Independent 38.66%
97 King's College School (Wimbledon) A GSG School London Independent 38.39%
98 Kingston Grammar School A GSG School Kingston Upon Thames Independent 38.12%
99 Abbey School Reading (The) A GSG School Reading Independent 37.88%
100 Woodford County High School A GSG School Woodford Green State 37.81%
101= Croydon High School A GSG School South Croydon Independent 37.79%
101= Lancing College A GSG School Lancing Independent 37.79%
103 Dr Challoner's Grammar School A GSG School Amersham State 37.66%
104 Dame Alice Owen's School A GSG School Potters Bar State 37.29%
105 Watford Grammar School For Girls A GSG School Watford State 37.26%
106 Bristol Grammar School A GSG School Bristol Independent 37.24%
107 Bellerbys College Cambridge Cambridge Independent 37.18%
108 Casterton School A GSG School Via Carnforth Independent 37.16%
109 Judd School (The) A GSG School Tonbridge State 37.04%
110 Saint Francis College Letchworth Garden City Independent 36.96%
111 Tormead School A GSG School Guildford Independent 36.83%
112 Bolton School Girls' Division A GSG School Bolton Independent 36.77%
113 Norwich School A GSG School Norwich Independent 36.66%
114 Nottingham High School A GSG School Nottingham Independent 36.57%
115 Newstead Wood School For Girls A GSG School Orpington State 36.32%
116 Exeter School A GSG School Exeter Independent 36.29%
117 Caterham School A GSG School Caterham Independent 36.22%
118 Trinity School A GSG School Croydon Independent 36.18%
119 Talbot Heath School A GSG School Bournemouth Independent 36.18%
120 Whitgift School A GSG School South Croydon Independent 36.03%
121 Nonsuch High School For Girls A GSG School Sutton State 35.99%
122 Bradford Grammar School A GSG School Bradford Independent 35.93%
123 Shrewsbury High School A GSG School Shrewsbury Independent 35.82%
124 Burgess Hill School For Girls A GSG School Burgess Hill Independent 35.75%
125 Grange School (The) A GSG School Northwich Independent 35.69%
126 Rugby School A GSG School Rugby Independent 35.62%
127 Queen Margaret's School A GSG School York Independent 35.38%
128 King's School (Chester) (The) A GSG School Chester Independent 35.15%
129 Portsmouth Grammar School (The) A GSG School Portsmouth Independent 34.98%
130 Malvern Saint James A GSG School Great Malvern Independent 34.90%
131 Cheadle Hulme School A GSG School Cheadle Independent 34.85%
132 Colchester County High School For Girls A GSG School Colchester State 34.73%
133 King Edward's School (Bath) A GSG School Bath Independent 34.28%
134 Canford School A GSG School Wimborne Independent 34.22%
135 Chelmsford County High School For Girls A GSG School Chelmsford State 34.22%
136 Sheffield High School A GSG School Sheffield Independent 34.14%
137 Altrincham Grammar School For Boys A GSG School Altrincham State 34.04%
138 Bishop's Stortford College A GSG School Bishop's Stortford Independent 33.22%
139 Bosworth Independent College Northampton Independent 33.18%
140 Marlborough College A GSG School Marlborough Independent 32.99%
141 Twycross House School Atherstone Independent 32.78%
142 Stockport Grammar School Stockport Independent 32.77%
143 Ilford County High School A GSG School Ilford State 32.64%
144 Roedean School A GSG School Brighton Independent 32.57%
145 Central Newcastle High School A GSG School Newcastle upon Tyne Independent 32.55%
146 Bellerby's College Oxford Independent 32.50%
147 Grammar School At Leeds (The) A GSG School Leeds Independent 32.48%
148 Uppingham School A GSG School Uppingham Independent 32.46%
149 Bolton School Boys' Division A GSG School Bolton Independent 32.43%
150 Watford Grammar School for Boys A GSG School Watford State 32.39%
151 Royal Grammar School, High Wycombe (The) A GSG School High Wycombe State 32.38%
152 Hereford Cathedral School Hereford Independent 32.28%
153= Moreton Hall School A GSG School Oswestry Independent 32.18%
153= Sutton High School A GSG School Sutton Independent 32.18%
155= Wallington County Grammar School A GSG School Wallington State 32.09%
155= Blue Coat School (The) Liverpool State 32.09%
157 Solihull School Solihull Independent 32.05%
158 Queenswood School A GSG School Hatfield Independent 31.99%
159 Shrewsbury School A GSG School Shrewsbury Independent 31.84%
160 Maynard School (The) Exeter Independent 31.70%
161 Leicester Grammar School Trust Leicester Independent 31.50%
162 Chase Academy Cannock Independent 31.34%
163 Chetwynde School Barrow-in-Furness Independent 31.02%
164 Hymers College Hull Independent 30.92%
165 Repton School A GSG School Derby Independent 30.77%
166 Ashford School A GSG School Ashford Independent 30.65%
167 Kingswood School A GSG School Bath Independent 30.64%
168 Dauntsey's School A GSG School Devizes Independent 30.62%
169 Red Maids' School (The) A GSG School Bristol Independent 30.56%
170= Merchant Taylors' Boys' School A GSG School Liverpool Independent 30.41%
170= Wakefield Girls' High School A GSG School Wakefield Independent 30.41%
172 Forest School A GSG School London Independent 30.32%
173 Ermysted's Grammar School A GSG School Skipton State 30.23%
174 Bromley High School (GDST) A GSG School Bromley Independent 30.21%
175 King Edward VI Handsworth School Birmingham State 30.00%
176 Queen's Gate School A GSG School London Independent 29.97%
177 Brighton And Hove High School A GSG School Brighton Independent 29.96%
178 Lancaster Royal Grammar School A GSG School Lancaster State 29.95%
179 Woldingham School A GSG School Woldingham Independent 29.86%
180 Ockbrook School Derby Independent 29.67%
181 Bootham School A GSG School York Independent 29.66%
182= Aylesbury Grammar School A GSG School Aylesbury State 29.65%
182= Bedford School A GSG School Bedford Independent 29.65%
184 Harrogate Ladies' College A GSG School Harrogate Independent 29.58%
185 Saint Mary's School, Cambridge A GSG School Cambridge Independent 29.52%
186 Chigwell School A GSG School Chigwell Independent 29.48%
187 Saint Margaret's School Bushey Independent 29.29%
188 Cardinal Vaughan Memorial RC School (The) A GSG School London State 29.27%
189 D'Overbroeck's College A GSG School Oxford Independent 29.21%
190 Ipswich High School A GSG School Ipswich Independent 29.18%
191 Francis Holland School, Regents Park A GSG School London Independent 28.99%
192 King Edward VI Five Ways School A GSG School Birmingham State 28.98%
193 Wellington College A GSG School Crowthorne Independent 28.96%
194 Caistor Grammar School A GSG School Caistor State 28.87%
195 Merchant Taylors' Girls' School A GSG School Liverpool Independent 28.70%
196 King Henry VIII School Coventry Independent 28.66%
197 Hills Road Sixth Form College A GSG School Cambridge State 28.58%
198 Northampton High School A GSG School Northampton Independent 28.56%
199 Francis Holland School, Sloane Square A GSG School Belgravia Independent 28.54%
200 Our Lady of Sion School Worthing Independent 28.53%


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:15 am 
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Yamin151 wrote:
I would immediately say that with such low numbers you cannot possible surmise if one school better than the other. It maybe more useful if you knew how many children went for the oxbridgea nd how many qualified, so if of 10 girls only 1 managed it that would be more meaningful, but with such low numbers an overall how many is not very useful.


If 10 girls got offers and only one managed it would really show that something had gone wrong with the A levels at that school. It would demonstrate to me some very talented girls had failed to get their A* grades and for the Arts courses at Oxford their A grades. It would shock me if a good school didn't react in such circumstances and would be a strong warning sign in the same way the number of girls who made their first university offers or the types of courses they got onto and into which universities.
My eldest dd has a poster on the wall in her room at university which states" Don't tell me the sky is the limit when there are footsteps on the moon." There is nothing wrong in reaching for excellence in any field of life even if you don't get to its very limits.

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Thank you whetstoneDad2.

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quasimodo wrote:
I have tried to research this on the internet but it is difficult to find recent information. I am aware for WGHS from what the headmistress has said at the open days over the last 2 years the school had 13 girls who met their offers in 2013 and 5 in 2014.For QMHS it was 2 girls in 2014 from their website. It would be appreciated if forum users could advise upon this for the last 5 years for both girls and boys. It doesn't affect our school choices but it would allow an assessment of the Oxbridge outreach programme.


Information was readily available on a quick click of google.

http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergraduat ... treach.pdf


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quasimodo wrote:
I have tried to research this on the internet but it is difficult to find recent information. I am aware for WGHS from what the headmistress has said at the open days over the last 2 years the school had 13 girls who met their offers in 2013 and 5 in 2014.For QMHS it was 2 girls in 2014 from their website. It would be appreciated if forum users could advise upon this for the last 5 years for both girls and boys. It doesn't affect our school choices but it would allow an assessment of the Oxbridge outreach programme.


Information was readily available on a quick click of google.

http://www.study.cam.ac.uk/undergraduat ... treach.pdf


Thank you for the weblink what I was after were the actual figures for the number of children getting places from 2009 to 2014 to Oxford or Cambridge from the schools to allow assessment de facto of the outreach programme rather than what the Universities say themselves. But if anyone wants to widen it to studies at top universities in the USA I don't mind.This information is readily available for the KE Independents. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

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I would suggest you contact the foundation office then for specifics , rather than try to conduct a haphazard straw poll on the forum.


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