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Max, Min and PP scores 2016 * updated *

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:46 pm
by AK loving Dad
** UPDATED AGAIN WITH ASTON AND CORRECTION TO CHG ** It shows that some DC on PP did really well and congratulations to them!

School Max mark achieved for entry/min mark for entry/Max PP for entry/Min PP for entry

KECHB 269/239/263/224
CHG 271/235/252/216
KEFW 270/233/245/210
Aston 264/221/231/209
KEVIS 258/223/251/?
HGS 241/209/?/?
BV 266/222/?/?
SG 264/218/?/?


I hope this helps. Good luck to all. I know what a stressful time it is. It does show that some high achievers are at all of these schools.

Re: Max, Min and PP scores for KE boys schools & FW for 2016

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:52 pm
by Petitpois
AK loving Dad wrote:Dear All,

I am sure this has already been posted - apologies its only some of the schools (perhaps someone could complete the list).

School Max mark achieved for entry /min mark for entry / min PP

KECHB 269 / 239 / 215

KEFW 270 / 233 / 200

Aston 264 / 221 / 204

HGS 241 / 209 / n/a

KEVIHS 258 / 223 / 210

I hope this helps. Good luck to all. I know what a stressful time it is. It does show that some high achievers are at all of these schools.

Added KE handsworth

Best wishes,
AK.

Re: Max, Min and PP scores for KE boys schools & FW for 2016

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:26 pm
by DGM
That's very interesting info! Is the office just telling anyone who asks?

So, the ones missing at the moment are CHG, SCGSG and BV, I think.

Re: Max, Min and PP scores for KE boys schools & FW for 2016

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:48 pm
by Bob1892
Never seen max scores for each school before....interesting to see that the 280+ aren't prevalent like they used to be

Re: Max, Min and PP scores for KE boys schools & FW for 2016

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:07 pm
by MSD
True Bob! That's what an easier test does to top end scores - no more 280's :(

Re: Max, Min and PP scores for KE boys schools & FW for 2016

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:01 pm
by OldTrout
AK Loving Dad

Lovely to hear from you and interesting info.

Why nothing for CHG, BV, SCGSG?

Re: Max, Min and PP scores for KE boys schools & FW for 2016

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:28 pm
by Bob1892
Would have thought an 'easier test' would have upped the cut-offs so surprised to see the drop in chb score- pupil premium played its part.
Hopefully the genuine and deserving pp candidates got in and those (although no fault of their own) whose dps have abused the system didn't.
We've spoke about this subject before on this forum so best to leave it for another day and hopefully the FO will sort it out.
Today's more of a time for reflection (& hopefully celebration) than anything else.

Re: Max, Min and PP scores for KE boys schools & FW for 2016

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:45 pm
by rimjhimm100
Bob1892 I have tried to keep up but I still don't get why the rise in pp scores have caused CHB non pp scores to go down from 243 to 239??? Perhaps I'm being thick.....

Re: Max, Min and PP scores for KE boys schools & FW for 2016

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:43 am
by MSD
Bob1892 wrote:Would have thought an 'easier test' would have upped the cut-offs so surprised to see the drop in chb score- pupil
With an easier test you will see a lot of children scoring at a very high percentage and scores are evenly distributed at the top end. With a harder test you will see only a few exceptional children scoring at the very top end and hence an uneven distribution. This in effect then causes the scores to stay down at 270's rather then few out of thousands on 280+'s.

Re: Max, Min and PP scores for KE boys schools & FW for 2016

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:01 am
by MSD
rimjhimm100 wrote:Bob1892 I have tried to keep up but I still don't get why the rise in pp scores have caused CHB non pp scores to go down from 243 to 239??? Perhaps I'm being thick.....
Rimjhimm - Let's take an example to explain this. We know CHB intake is 120 and 30 of these are PP candidates. I don't know the exact cut-off numbers, but we do know that PP cut-off this year has gone up by 5 points and non-pp cut-off reduced by 4 points.

We also know that if CHB intake was 120, with no PP children allowed, and this is important, then the natural CHB cut-off will be around 238

And what seems to have happened this year is that a lot of PP children might have scored quite highly (240+), thereby taking some top scoring places in CHB from non-PP children. So if you look at the rank order, you might might find that out of 120 places available, the PP scores are not necessarily in the bottom 30 and this causes the non-PP cut-off to go down. At least in theory, but I am rubbish at explaining :(