Many thanks for your reply.
I asked the question on behalf of a friend whos ds hasn't got into KEFW's my dd has a place.
I was very optimistic over the fact that his parents were told he was what seemed to be not far down the waiting list then found out that indeed KEFW have over offered by 20 places
But am trying to be optimistic still.
At least the foundation office is still open over the hols.
When I spoke to them over a different matter 3 days before all offers had to be accepted by the informed me that for one school - think handsworth were still awaiting over 40 people to reply ?!?!?!?