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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:17 am 
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Upper Schools:
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Chiltern Hills Academy   137280   27/02/2013   Good
The Grange School   110488   01/12/2011   Good
Cressex Community School   110500   24/10/2012   Requires Improvement
The Wye Valley School   110508   10/01/2013   Inadequate
St Michael's Catholic School   110516   24/10/2013   Good
The Misbourne School   110490   26/11/2013   Good
The Aylesbury Vale Academy   135879   16/11/2011   Satisfactory
Buckingham School   110484   11/12/2013   Requires Improvement
Burnham Park E-ACT Academy   137864   28/01/2014   Requires Improvement
The Mandeville School   110497   08/10/2013   Inadequate
Highcrest Academy   136858   19/11/2013   Requires Improvement
Princes Risborough   137372   08/05/2013   Requires Improvement
John Colet School   137261   21/01/2014   Requires Improvement
Holmer Green Senior School   138058   16/01/2014   Requires Improvement
Burnham Park E-ACT Academy   137864   28/01/2014   Requires Improvement
The Beaconsfield School   110505   10/11/2010   Satisfactory
Sir William Ramsay School   137256   03/07/2012   Good
Amersham School   110509   02/03/2011   Good
The Chalfonts Community College   137215   20/11/2013   Good
Waddesdon Church of England School   110534   19/09/2006   Outstanding
Great Marlow School   136964   18/04/2013   Good
The Cottesloe School   110533   10/10/2012   Requires Improvement

Grammar Schools:
Code:
John Hampden Grammar School   110485   20/05/2008   Outstanding
Burnham Grammar School   137564   22/11/2012   Good
Aylesbury High School   136846   21/06/2012   Outstanding
Dr Challoner's High School   137219   29/05/2012   Outstanding
Sir Henry Floyd Grammar School   110496   18/05/2011   Good
Chesham Grammar School   137091   28/03/2014   Outstanding
Aylesbury Grammar School   110511   26/07/2202   Outstanding
Royal Latin School    110512   06/05/2009   Outstanding
Wycombe High School   136723   27/06/2012   Outstanding
Dr Challoner's Grammar School    110514   12/11/2007   Outstanding
Sir William Borlase's Grammar School   136781   27/06/2012   Outstanding
Beaconsfield High School   110528   02/05/2007   Outstanding

..... a huge tribute to all the staff who I know have worked absolutely tirelessly to maintain the selective secondary school system in Bucks since it was established in... er, scratches head ... 1946 or 1947 ...?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:28 am 
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Alternatively it's far easier to be outstanding when your school roll is full and parents are very happy to give quite sizeable donations. Your pupils are all above average and in general from involved, engaged, largely middle class families. Compared to upper schools where many don't have full rolls, have a much more diverse range of students with a more complex range of needs (sen and eal) and have to students coming to them working on levels of anything from 1 to 6!

Yes the grammars are fab but considering how the cards are stacked in their favour they blooming well should be! We have some amazing upper schools such as Great Marlow and should celebrate them!

Wouldn't it be nice to send all of our children to outstanding schools together rather then split up friendships etc based on an arbitrary 75 mins of testing when they are 10?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:33 am 
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pippi wrote:
Upper Schools:
Code:
Chiltern Hills Academy   137280   27/02/2013   Good
The Grange School   110488   01/12/2011   Good
Cressex Community School   110500   24/10/2012   Requires Improvement
The Wye Valley School   110508   10/01/2013   Inadequate
St Michael's Catholic School   110516   24/10/2013   Good
The Misbourne School   110490   26/11/2013   Good
The Aylesbury Vale Academy   135879   16/11/2011   Satisfactory
Buckingham School   110484   11/12/2013   Requires Improvement
Burnham Park E-ACT Academy   137864   28/01/2014   Requires Improvement
The Mandeville School   110497   08/10/2013   Inadequate
Highcrest Academy   136858   19/11/2013   Requires Improvement
Princes Risborough   137372   08/05/2013   Requires Improvement
John Colet School   137261   21/01/2014   Requires Improvement
Holmer Green Senior School   138058   16/01/2014   Requires Improvement
Burnham Park E-ACT Academy   137864   28/01/2014   Requires Improvement
The Beaconsfield School   110505   10/11/2010   Satisfactory
Sir William Ramsay School   137256   03/07/2012   Good
Amersham School   110509   02/03/2011   Good
The Chalfonts Community College   137215   20/11/2013   Good
Waddesdon Church of England School   110534   19/09/2006   Outstanding
Great Marlow School   136964   18/04/2013   Good
The Cottesloe School   110533   10/10/2012   Requires Improvement

Grammar Schools:
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John Hampden Grammar School   110485   20/05/2008   Outstanding
Burnham Grammar School   137564   22/11/2012   Good
Aylesbury High School   136846   21/06/2012   Outstanding
Dr Challoner's High School   137219   29/05/2012   Outstanding
Sir Henry Floyd Grammar School   110496   18/05/2011   Good
Chesham Grammar School   137091   28/03/2014   Outstanding
Aylesbury Grammar School   110511   26/07/2202   Outstanding
Royal Latin School    110512   06/05/2009   Outstanding
Wycombe High School   136723   27/06/2012   Outstanding
Dr Challoner's Grammar School    110514   12/11/2007   Outstanding
Sir William Borlase's Grammar School   136781   27/06/2012   Outstanding
Beaconsfield High School   110528   02/05/2007   Outstanding

..... a huge tribute to all the staff who I know have worked absolutely tirelessly to maintain the selective secondary school system in Bucks since it was established in... er, scratches head ... 1946 or 1947 ...?

(that last bit was meant to be sarcastic. I think the system stinks)


Sorry in my huffiness missed the sarcasm :oops: my bad! Yes it does stink!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:57 pm 
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This is an interesting but shocking comparison. Bucks CC education dept should hang its head in shame at this roll call. It repeatedly says of its selective education system how it provides a first-class education in all its schools. How the secondary selection process allocates the right school for the right child, blah, blah blah. This quite clearly shows it doesn't.

The fact is the majority of Bucks state school children are allotted a school that either requires improvement or is inadequate (with one or two exceptions in the upper school list). The majority of Bucks school children do not qualify for the outstanding grammar schools and it seems the new selection process is making it even harder for them to qualify with all the educational tourism going on (talked about in other threads).

How can a county (or anyone) be happy that the majority of its secondary school age children are at schools that require improvement or are inadequate?

This list should be given to the journalist who wrote that biased article in The Observer a few weeks back which claimed the new style test "thwarted pushy parents" and see what they make of it.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:00 pm 
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Lillie wrote:
This is an interesting but shocking comparison. Bucks CC education dept should hang its head in shame at this roll call. It repeatedly says of its selective education system how it provides a first-class education in all its schools. How the secondary selection process allocates the right school for the right child, blah, blah blah. This quite clearly shows it doesn't.

The fact is the majority of Bucks state school children are allotted a school that either requires improvement or is inadequate (with one or two exceptions in the upper school list). The majority of Bucks school children do not qualify for the outstanding grammar schools and it seems the new selection process is making it even harder for them to qualify with all the educational tourism going on (talked about in other threads).

How can a county (or anyone) be happy that the majority of its secondary school age children are at schools that require improvement or are inadequate?

I agree Lillie, although I would add that there are a lot of older judgements in the GS list, and only one under the new inspection framework. Generally speaking, the better the outcome, the longer the interval to next inspection. Some of those GSs have gone many years without inspection and still hold their last judgement. It's quite possible that under the new framework, some of those judgements would not be as glowing. However, the list would still show a "better" general picture than that of the other list.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:55 pm 
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Yes - Ofsted changed dramatically in September 2012 - how many of the GS have been inspected since then?

You cannot compare an 'old' outstanding to the new measure especially as some of these old inspections were 'reduced' tariff which meant no teaching was seen!

How is Bucks CC responsible? Many of these Upper schools are Academies so they don't have to let anyone from the LA through their doors; in the days when they were LA schools most of them were 'good'.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:50 pm 
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I take your point, Guest55, in that the most of the upper schools are now academies and not directly reporting to the CC.

I take umbrage, however, at the council continually propagating the myth that the selection process is defensible and in the best interests of all the county's children.

To quote from the head teachers' manual:

"The object of the selection exercise is to place every pupil in a school that is well matched to their learning needs recognising that Buckinghamshire provides a first class education in all types of secondary school".

First class education in all types of secondary school? Not as shown by this list.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:57 pm 
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Lillie - so what do you think the LA can do? These Uppers chose to become Academies and cut off contact and they have not improved ... in fact a number have got worse.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:33 pm 
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This is the stance the council has always taken. It has not changed its wording since these schools became academies. The council has always defended the system. But It should stop putting out unfounded statements about how his system is for the benefit of all the children when it clearly isn't.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:07 pm 
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Lillie - the booklet would have been written some time before these schools were inspected ...

'Requires improvement' = satisfactory, it is not an Ofsted category of concern. Only two are in special measures which, I admit, is two too many but things often improve rapidly in these circumstances.

I do wonder if some of the GS would get outstanding if they were inspected again now.


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