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 Post subject: YEAR 5
PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:18 pm 
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I have just discovered this website and looks like it will be very useful in our count down to the tests next year.

At present I have a child in Year 5 and so the next few months will prove interesting.
Can any body give advice on where to start and who to talk to etc..

My 1 slight problem is that my child has Dylexia and so if anybody knows how to go about getting extra time??? or anything else I need to look at
any suggestions are most welcome.
look forward to any responses.
ahs


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:23 pm 
How can you ask for extra time, during a class at secondary school?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:00 am 
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Dear AHS

See following link re dyslexia

www.buckscc.gov.uk/schools/documents/ad ... idance.pdf

Will post this evening, explaining a regime for next years 11 plus [need more time, suggest you get ready to read with a large glass of wine!]

Patricia


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 Post subject: Year 5,
PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 9:39 am 
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Patricia.

I look forward to your suggestions.
And I will check out the link you have recommended.
many thanks
AHS


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:56 pm 
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Dear AHS

Are you ready for this?.......

The 11 plus exam in Bucks consists of 2 Verbal Reasoning, Multiple choice tests. Each paper has 80 questions to complete in 50 minutes. Your child only needs to pass one of the tests, the average score is no longer used. The school will provide 5 familiarisation sessions [covering the 21 types of questions] followed by 3 practice tests.

The tests are published by NFER.

Publishers which currently cover the 21 types required for Bucks include:
AFN, IPS, SUSAN DAUGHTREY [Bright Sparks only, NOT her books 1-7], THE TUTORS.

NFER, who publish the Bucks tests only contain 15 types of questions…..it is therefore necessary to practice HIKNOS while completing these tests. [HIKNOS are 6 types as identified by IPS]

I would recommend that you start by buying a method and technique book in order to teach yourself how approach each of the questions [IPS]

http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/books/list.php?ex=85

IPS also publishes a book containing a selection of each type. Before you administer your first test, teach your child the types contained in that test using the IPS additional questions book, continue this method for the first few tests.

http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/books/list.php?ex=90

Use tests in the following order…..

1] IPS, 10 tests 50 questions, 30 minutes [shorter tests good to begin with]

http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/books/list.php?ex=88

2] THE TUTORS, 12 tests, 80 questions, 50 minutes…..these come as E papers or in packs of 4

http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/books/ ... p?g=f&p=21

http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/epaper ... =f&c=1&p=6

3] SUSAN DAUGHTREY [Bright Sparks only], 4 tests 80 questions 50 minutes [soon to be 8 tests]
http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/books/list.php?ex=120

4] NFER, 4 tests, 85 questions 50 minutes [remember to practice HIKNOS from IPS when completing these tests, also need to cross off the last 5 questions, as the real test only has 80 not 85]

http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/books/list.php?ex=14

Between steps 1-4 use the 2 CDs produced by THE TUTORS, Vol.1 contains 50 questions of each type. Vol.3 contains 12 tests. The CDs relieve the boredom of pen and paper tests, helping to increase speed and accuracy. They have received many good reviews.

http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/cd/the ... lume-1.php

http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/cd/the ... lume-2.php

Do not start until the New Year, between now and then [and for the rest of year 5] ensure your child reads out loud to you at least 3 times a week, making note of all unknown vocabulary. If you look at some of the posts concerning the 2006 11 plus, the majority of posters, mention vocabulary as being the biggest problem [and I whole heartedly agree]
See the following link, bottom of the page, for my list of words with an explanation of how to use flash cards as an aid

http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/revisi ... wnload.php

In addition, there are 4 types of maths questions, they are not rocket science, BUT require an ability to quickly recall the 4 maths operations i.e. adding, subtraction, multiplying and dividing. The quicker the child can recall, the more time can be spent on codes [easy marks, but time consuming] Basically if you ask for 8 x 7 you want the answer 56, now not in 10 seconds time, once they know their times tables inside out and back to front [ up to 12 x] then division becomes easy. Adding and subtraction should be practiced using numbers under 150….try making up games, giving quick fire questions in the car, out for walks etc.

This forum is a wealth of information, look around, take note and get teaching! Any problems just ask, there is always someone willing to help.

Patricia

PS….you can now have that second glass of wine, I am about to have mine!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:31 pm 
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Patricia,

I am glad that I asked the question, there is no way I would have discovered all this info out myself.

:shock:
Many thanks for all your advice and I hope that I am not the only bewildered parent out there.

AHS


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:01 pm 
Patricia, thanks so much for that. It really helps to have a 'plan' from someone so experienced. I know you don't have NVR in Bucks, but do you have any idea what a similar plan for NVR would be? Our local grammar tests both VR and NVR, papers set by NFER. Any pointers would be gratefully received!


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:35 pm 
Question for Patricia I think. Someone has kindly advised in the Surrey section that Walsh VR practice papers are the nearest to Tiffin tests (set by NFER). Haven't heard much about these papers on this site. What's your view Patricia (or anyone else!)


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 Post subject: Year 5
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 7:43 pm 
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I used the Walsh papers with my daughter who has just sat her 11+ (Bucks).
I have mixed feelings about them, they are, I feel and supported by her, harder than other papers around, not necessarily harder questions yet alot of answer options to lead you astray etc.
Her marks definitley slipped, which irrated her, yet they did give invaluable practice in the, ' circle and move on ' technique when doing papers. She didn't use this technique in other papers, she always seemed to have plenty of time, so, I feel these papers offered valuable, yet stressful!, practice!!

We used these near the end of practice (before NFER) the only way I would recommend them to be used. Really I would suggest that you look at them yourself and form an opinion about how your child will do.

Good luck and I alwys appreciate others views!!
Liz


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:14 pm 
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Dear Lily

Unfortunately, as Bucks do not use NVR, I have liittle knowledge of the 'best' books to use.....try posting in the NVR section.

Patricia


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