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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:41 pm 
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Dear Planning Ahead Parents,

Please have a look of the school's New 11+ Entrance Examination effective October 2015 for 2016 Entry,

https://www.colytongrammar.devon.sch.uk ... /index.htm

(under the heading, 'CHANGE TO 11+ ENTRANCE EXAMINATIONS')


Good Luck and enjoy the Journey with your child.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:39 pm 
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Averagedad wrote:
New 11+ Entrance Examination effective October 2015 for 2016 Entry
Not unexpected, and going the same way as Torbay. Although it's just "consultation" at this stage, the word on the ground is that it will ultimately be adopted. I like what I've seen of CEM; erd'n pr'nounced "kem" down yere mind so they vocab bits might tezduz!

That just leaves the Plymouth GSs as a question mark; anyone here up to speed on that, since a Google search doesn't highlight any changes?


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 3:53 pm 
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Dear Caring + Curious Parents,

There are 2 interesting developments in the CGS.

1st, the New Ranking System, 1st implemented in 2013 Test, has resulted in more girls being admitted. (I was advised by other CGS parents)

It could be because girls tend to be better in Reading, Writing etc. and the New Ranking System requires the English paper to be given marks (i.e. NOT just Pass or Fail) AND the ranking has been changed to based on the total marks of VB + Maths + Eng (i.e. NOT just VB + Maths only)


2nd, only 49 candidates were in Category A in the 2014 Test, when it was about 85 for each of the preceding 3-4 years (Again, I was advised by parents receiving the 11+ result )

Does this mean either the Test has become significantly more difficult (i.e. much harder to pass ALL 3 papers) or candidates are more specialised? (i.e.many could pass 2 papers only - excellent in Eng but below average in Maths or vice versa - resulting in more Category B?)


Good luck to those planning to take the test in Oct 2015.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:21 am 
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You are wrong about the category A figures. It was 66 in 2013 (my child was in category A) and about 90 in 2012 (a friend's child was in category A).


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:04 pm 
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Dear Respectful + Peaceful Parents,

Trust that you all had a wonderful Xmas and a joyful New Year.

I did a bit research myself rather than relying on hearsay, and can now confirm the following :

Category A for 2012 Test (Entry Sept 2013) = 95

Category A for 2014 Test (Entry Sept 2015) = 49

(Please refer to the below 2 Emails to me and my friend)


Have another great year with your great family.


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EMAIL to Me back in 2012

From: CGS Intranet <dbmail@colytongrammar.devon.sch.uk>
Date: 13 October 2012 at 00:01
Subject: Results of 11+ Selection Tests for Entry September 2013 - (My Boy's Name)
To: Me

Dear ***

Following the recent admission tests, I am writing to tell you that (My Boy's Name) performance placed him in Category A.

Following the tests on 6th October, the number of candidates in each category was as follows:

Category A: 95

Category B: 50

Category C: 217

The planned admission number for September 2013 is 120.

Students in Categories A and B are ranked within their category on their combined VR and Maths score.

As explained in the prospectus and on Open Mornings, the school will not disclose test scores or the rank order and will not provide any additional feedback.

If (My Boys' Name) is in Category A or B and you wish him to be considered for a place at Colyton Grammar School, you must now name the school on your home local authority Common Application Form - see the following links:

Devon - Common Application Form

Dorset - Common Application Form

Somerset - Common Application Form

Devon Local Authority coordinates admissions to Colyton and will allocate places to students only where parents have named Colyton Grammar School on the Common Application Form by 31st October 2012. Places will be allocated by the Local Authority on 1st March 2013 from the ranked eligible list, first to students in Category A and then to those in Category B, up to the 120th place.

Local authorities will try to meet parents' highest preference on the form. Please remember that if Colyton Grammar School is not listed as your highest preference, you may be offered that higher preference, regardless of your position on the Colyton Grammar School eligible list.

Offers of a school place will come from your home local authority.

A waiting list will not be created until after 1st March 2013.

Category C students will not be considered for admission or be placed on a waiting list.

The results of the test are final and not subject to appeal. This does not affect your statutory right to appeal against non-admission if the local authority do not allocate (My Boy's Name) a place at Colyton Grammar School on 1st March 2013. For details see the section on appeals in Admissions - Some Frequently Asked Questions

Thank you for your interest in Colyton Grammar School.

Yours sincerely,

Paul W Evans (MEd FCollT FRSA)

Headteacher

This is an automated message from CGS Admissions System - please do not reply to this message as the mailbox is not monitored.


Email to my friend in 2014

From: CGS Intranet <dbmail@colytongrammar.devon.sch.uk>
Date: 14 October 2014 16:57
Subject: Results of 11+ Selection Tests for Entry September 2015 - Candidate's Name
To: Email of Candidate's parent

Dear YYY

Following the recent admission tests, I am writing to tell you that (Candidate's Name) performance placed him in Category A

Following the tests on 4th October, the number of candidates in each category was as follows:

Category A: 49

Category B: 81

Category C: 246

The planned admission number for September 2015 is 124.

Students in Categories A and B are ranked within their category on their combined VR, Maths and English score.

As explained in the prospectus and on Open Mornings, the school does not disclose test scores or the rank order and does not provide any additional feedback.

If (Candidate's name) is in Category A or B and you wish him to be considered for a place at Colyton Grammar School, you must now name the school on your home local authority Common Application Form - see the following links:

Devon - Common Application Form

Dorset - Common Application Form

Somerset - Common Application Form

Devon Local Authority coordinates admissions to Colyton and will allocate places to students only where parents have named Colyton Grammar School on the Common Application Form by 31st October 2014. Places will be allocated by the Local Authority on 2nd March 2015 from the ranked eligible list, first to students in Category A and then to those in Category B, up to the 124th place.

Local authorities will try to meet parents' highest preference on the form. Please remember that if Colyton Grammar School is not listed as your highest preference, you may be offered that higher preference, regardless of your position on the Colyton Grammar School eligible list.

Offers of a school place will come from your home local authority.

A waiting list will not be created until after 2nd March 2015.

Category C students will not be considered for admission or be placed on a waiting list.

The results of the test are final and not subject to appeal. This does not affect your statutory right to appeal against non-admission if the local authority does not allocate (Candidate's Name) a place at Colyton Grammar School on 2nd March 2015. For details see the section on appeals inAdmissions - Some Frequently Asked Questions

Thank you for your interest in Colyton Grammar School.

Yours sincerely,

Paul W Evans (MEd FCollT FRSA)

Headteacher

This is an automated message from CGS Admissions System - please do not reply to this message as the mailbox is not monitored.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:26 pm 
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That's interesting - only 6 Category B kids this time may fail to get a place IF all in Cat A and cat B apply (some may not). Last year, there were 136 kids in cat A+cat B (66 and 70) (so potentially 16 kids without a place).

I'm still not convinced this means they need to change the test though.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:26 am 
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pooplechair wrote:
That's interesting - only 6 Category B kids this time may fail to get a place IF all in Cat A and cat B apply (some may not). Last year, there were 136 kids in cat A+cat B (66 and 70) (so potentially 16 kids without a place).

I'm still not convinced this means they need to change the test though.

Every grammar school's headteacher seems to be 'dreaming' of putting a 'tutor proof' 11+ test in place at their school.

The Reality : No test is 'tutor proof'.

Remember how we as a student were being 'tutored' to pass our university interview?

Remember how we as a job hunter were being 'tutored' to pass our job test/assessment?

The Reality : Every top school is 'tutoring' its students to get better grades in GCSE and A Level.

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It's never about how hard the test is, but about how hard we, the child and the parent, try our Best - all about Attitude.

Remember : 1 test does not 'Make All' or 'End All' - with the Right Attitude, 1 is to have All....... in the end.


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Let's never forget : Life is full of Tests

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