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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:21 am 
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This Herts consultation has begun:
http://www.hertsdirect.org/services/edl ... rrfor2013/

This change to the oversubscription criteria is actually not just for secondary schools, but also for primaries.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:13 am 
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This will be enshrined in law if/when parliament approves the new School Admissions Code next month. It is not a Herts initiative.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:46 am 
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As I understand it, for primaries at least, some parts of the new school admissions code are statutory (multiple births, children of armed forces) and some are options for the schools to decide for themselves (whether to give priority to children of staff etc).


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:07 am 
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Sorry, yes, to clarify my post, the opportunity to do this is enshrined in the new Code: "children of staff at the school may be prioritised".


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:46 pm 
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IMHO, no, children of staff shouldn't get priority.

It's selection by the back door, and usually results in a loss of places for local children. Does it attract 'better' teachers? I don't see why it should, although it would attract teachers with primary school-aged children & highly-qualified dinner ladies.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:23 pm 
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tense wrote:
Does it attract 'better' teachers? I don't see why it should, although it would attract teachers with primary school-aged children & highly-qualified dinner ladies.

I agree, and why would those dinner ladies hang around for longer than the minimum to get their first child in? :lol:
For teachers, perhaps they would subsequently like the convenience of taking their children to the same primary school they work a. Not sure how much of an advantage this would be for sec. school teachers. :?
I personally know a teacher that was planning to swap between primary and secondary (before they removed this staff preference rule). Not sure what commitment this shows to teaching? :(


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:32 am 
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I can think of nothing worse than having my children at school with me!


as for swapping between phases I can;t see that this shows a lack of dedication?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:09 am 
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pabrighton0 wrote:
I personally know a teacher that was planning to swap between primary and secondary (before they removed this staff preference rule). Not sure what commitment this shows to teaching? :(

I'm not sure if I agree with priority being given to the children of staff at a school. However, with regard to your comment, teachers are parents just like everyone else, if an opportunity arose to be able to secure a place for your child at a good school what parent wouldn't take advantage of that. I don't see why this would indicate they have a lack of commitment to teaching. It seems to me teachers can't win. They are expected to put up and shut up when it comes to changes to their pensions and retirement age, and yet expected to put their dedication to teaching above their children. I don't see any reason why a transfer from one job to another would demonstrate a lack of dedication to their profession.

I am not a teacher but I would love to see the look on my sons' faces if I suggested getting a job at their school. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:20 am 
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Fran17 wrote:
They are expected to put up and shut up when it comes to changes to their pensions and retirement age, and yet expected to put their dedication to teaching above their children. I don't see any reason why a transfer from one job to another would demonstrate a lack of dedication to their profession.
I am not saying that this shows lack of commitment to the profession, or that we should try to reverse Maslow's hierarchy of needs, but when perks and benefits start to drive people that much you have to question whether giving the perk would have result intended by the legislator, which I imagine is to get a better education to all children? In the case that I described, it was clearly driving that professional to hop around instead of focusing on the stage of teaching that she felt would be best at.
Clearly moving from one stage to the other has an impact on the teacher's effectiveness and productivity?
I must confess I am confused by this portraying of teachers as victims, everybody is just making choices.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:54 am 
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I am not trying to be provacative.

I don't see teachers as victims, I just feel it is being a little presumptuous to think that a change of job may impact on the teacher's effectiveness and productivity.

I was responding to your comment below.

pabrighton0 wrote:
Not sure what commitment this shows to teaching? :(


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