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fishdog10
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my son will be 10 years and 3 months when he sits the test

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...will his score be standardised so that he won't need to get as high as a child who is 10 years 11 months when they sit the test?

Sorry a bit confused :?
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Re: my son will be 10 years and 3 months when he sits the te

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fishdog10 wrote:...will his score be standardised so that he won't need to get as high as a child who is 10 years 11 months when they sit the test?

Sorry a bit confused :?
The way it normally works is that his score will be compared with the scores of all the other candidates of the same age. The mean raw score for each age group is converted to a standardised score of 100 and a standardised score of say 121 would be 'equal' regardless of age group even if the underlying raw scores were different. In theory, younger age groups will have a lower mean raw score, but it could of course work out that a given group has a high mean score relative to an older one (and in that case they would need higher raw scores to achieve a particular standardised score).
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Re: my son will be 10 years and 3 months when he sits the te

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Lower raw score needed if younger in most instances, see below for how it panned out last year

To score 106 in each paper:

A child aged 10 years 1 month needed

Maths 11/30
English 16/24
Reasoning 37/80

A child aged 11 needed

Maths 13/30
English 17/30
Reasoning 39/80

To score 138 in English, or 141 in the other papers:

A child aged 10 years 1 month needed

Maths 26/30
English 24/24
Reasoning 70/80

A child aged 11 needed

Maths 27/30
English 24/24
Reasoning 70/80

The English required a 100% raw score to achieve 138.
Bob1892
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Re: my son will be 10 years and 3 months when he sits the te

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FortyNinePence wrote:Lower raw score needed if younger in most instances, see below for how it panned out last year

To score 106 in each paper:

A child aged 10 years 1 month needed

Maths 11/30
English 16/24
Reasoning 37/80

A child aged 11 needed

Maths 13/30
English 17/30
Reasoning 39/80

To score 138 in English, or 141 in the other papers:

A child aged 10 years 1 month needed

Maths 26/30
English 24/24
Reasoning 70/80

A child aged 11 needed

Maths 27/30
English 24/24
Reasoning 70/80

The English required a 100% raw score to achieve 138.
It looks as if a summer born child doesn't seem to have the big advantage as previously thought.
FortyNinePence
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Re: my son will be 10 years and 3 months when he sits the te

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Hardly any advantage at the top end in 2014.
fishdog10
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Re: my son will be 10 years and 3 months when he sits the te

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Thanks guys - I'd seen the examples provided for 10 years 1 month but didn't know how far it would be stretched for those a month or two older but judging by how minimal the difference between expected scores are for older and younger kids, it would probably be negligible difference for my son. I guess we'll just have to abandon the hope that his age won't disadvantage him in the test - que sera....
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The point of age standardisation is to ensure no one is disadvantaged.

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"An important consequence of this [age standardisation] is that, in whatever month pupils were born, roughly the same proportion will achieve the specified pass mark. This is because pupils are, in effect, only being compared with other pupils of the same age as themselves."
fishdog10
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Re: my son will be 10 years and 3 months when he sits the te

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Thank you mitasol, that sounds more reassuring. Standardisation is quite tricky to get my head around - good job it's not me sitting the 11+ in September! :( :oops:
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