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England is to rose as Wales is to ?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:56 pm
by bristolmum
Find a word which will complete the sentence in the best way.

England is to rose as Wales is to :

daffodil
dragon
leek

Answer is leek. But why not daffodil


Another question: Cow is to herd as fish is to ?

swarm, school, shoal

Ans is school, but why not shoal

Please help

Re: England is to rose as Wales is to ?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:39 pm
by pheasantchick
Wales: I think that leek s the official emblem of Wales.

Fish: according to one reference, a shoal of fish are together for social reasons, whilst a school of fish are swimming together. Another reference seems to use shoal for individual types of fish, and school for fish in general. However, the two terms seem to be interchangeable.

Re: England is to rose as Wales is to ?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:45 pm
by ToadMum
From good old Wikipedia (not an entry edited by DS1 though I don't think - strange what teenage boys find to amuse themselves with :?):
In biology, any group of fish that stay together for social reasons are shoaling (pronounced /ˈʃoʊlɪŋ/), and if the group is swimming in the same direction in a coordinated manner, they are schooling (pronounced /ˈskuːlɪŋ/).[1]
a b c d e Pitcher and Parish 1993, page 365.


I would have said "shoal", personally, but DD (Yr6) immediately said "school", which is apparently something she has been taught, obviously by someone other than me.

DS2 then chipped in that he knew that from watching "Finding Nemo"...

Re: England is to rose as Wales is to ?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:31 pm
by bristolmum
Thanks ToadMum and pheasantchick.

Re: England is to rose as Wales is to ?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:18 pm
by Looking for help
I thought it was a school of fish and a shoal of whales myself ......................
Or now you come to mention it, is it a shoal of fish and a school of whales :oops:
Yuk question

Re: England is to rose as Wales is to ?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:22 pm
by Samlet
Is it a pod of whales?

Re: England is to rose as Wales is to ?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:25 pm
by Long Journey
What paper is it from?

Re: England is to rose as Wales is to ?

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:29 pm
by Looking for help
Might be , the t'interweb is not clear, perhaps we need an actual dictionary :D

As others have said though, it depends what the fish are doing as to whether they are shoaling or schooling.

So the question is ambiguous.

Re: England is to rose as Wales is to ?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:49 pm
by janet71
I would like to think that the real tests are not so ambiguos - I mean we are grown adults and even we are discussing the technicalities of a shoal or school of fish - I suppose with both the answers they are right but it depends in the context - Re Q1 if its flowers then yes I would put daffodil but national emlems then yes its a leek but its a little unfair as both are right until you know which they wanted. Which reminds me "Add national emblems and flowers" to my DS list of things to learn - Dont think he would have known either :lol:

Re: England is to rose as Wales is to ?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:46 pm
by bristolmum
Hi Long Journey

These questions were from Step by Step paper 5.