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 Post subject: tutors 15 min level 4 paper 2 q12Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:37 pm

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Hello mike if your there, please could you explaine this one for me so that I can show to my dd.

q12) dh is to sw as jl is to ? answer oq

dd insists that she keeps ending up on ys which isnt even on the answer sheet, and i'm no help to her what so ever!

many many thanx

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:02 pm

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Take the number of places between the letters.

dh -> D E F G H
sw -> S T U V W

jl -> J K L

oq -> O P Q

As the asnwer does not contain the obvious answer to this question, my theory is to look for other logics and see if the answer is one of the given answers.

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:41 pm

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Thank you sooooooooooo much

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:43 pm

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D is the forth letter from the beginning and H is number 8.
W is number 4 from the end and S is number 8 from the end

J is H+2 and L is J+2, so
S+2= Q and Q+2=O

Hope this makes sense.

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:44 pm

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dear Gilly

DD asks how does she know which letter to start the 2nd pair on?

sorry to be a pain but i dont know how to help her

thank you so much

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:57 pm

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Good question!

In such cases where the common logic fails to find the answer and the above logic makes sense, the way I instruct my DS is to look at the given possible answers and pick the one that matches the logic of JL.

Children should not get disappointment if one logic fails. They should be able to immediately switch to a different possible logic and apply that as well.

Gilly

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:58 pm

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.. one more point. Such questions should be of multiple choice type.

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 Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:01 pm

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I liked the logic explained by vichka as well. Good stuff.

Gilly

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:37 am

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Hi

This is a reverse mirror image question

Write the alphabet out like this (spacing in the text does not align correctly)

ABCDEFGHIJKLM
ZYWVUTSRQPON

In a standard mirror image question we would write DH is to WS, we then reverse the second pair of letters to give

DH is to SW

Therefore in a standard mirror image

JL is to QO

When reversed the answer becomes OQ

This type of question appears once in the NFER preparation papers.

Regards

Mike

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 Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:51 pm

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many thanx to all

will show to dd

sorry vichka i didnt see your post before i posted the 2nd time, but thank you so much.
blanca

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