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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:43 pm 
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Tiffin Schools have now placed a Consultation Document on their websites for 2013-14 Admissions. Both Schools are proposing to continue with 100% Open Selection policy. Girls School is also proposing changes to the testing methods, which have not been spelt out.

As other Boroughs' Grammar Schools do not follow 100% open Selection, Children living nearer to the Tiffin Schools (children from Kingston, Richmond, Surrey, Merton etc.) do not get level playing field.

I would therefore be responding to the consultation arguing for Kent model ( Kent has 34 Grammar Schools), which means places should be given on the basis to proximity of school to home of those Children who attain a minimum standard (say those who score 220 or 230 and above). The School would fix the minimum standard.

I would urge the parents of children living nearer to these schools to respond to this consultation as well.


Tiffin Girls School
http://www.tiffingirls.kingston.sch.uk/ ... tation.pdf

http://www.tiffingirls.kingston.sch.uk/ ... k_form.pdf

Tiffin School
http://www.tiffinschool.co.uk/uploads/f ... pt2013.pdf


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:13 pm 
Or to adopt a Wilson School admission policy where the last band is allocated on distance to the school.

There is a form to fill out on the TGS website which invites comments on the proposed admission policy.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:17 pm 
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Good news for potential Tiffin Girls as well - the PAN is being increased by 30 to 150 - they must be adding another class. Shame for us that Tiffin Boys are not doing the same :(


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:46 am 
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suzanne wrote:
Or to adopt a Wilson School admission policy where the last band is allocated on distance to the school.

There is a form to fill out on the TGS website which invites comments on the proposed admission policy.


Had good chat with friends about the Tiffin schools admissions. A modified version is as follows.

1. Firstly, 20% places (28 for boys, 30 for girls) to highest scoring candidates (i.e Super bright category).
2. Then, to those scoring 220 and above, ranked in order of distance from home to school on direct line basis.

220 is 10% higher achievement than the standardized average. (Historically, the cut off for boys has been little below 230 and for girls, little above 235). As Tiffin admission tests are harder and attract cohort of much higher ability, achieving score of 220 is a great feat in itself. However, score of 220 is used as an example. School may fix the minimum score depicting ability level required by the School.

This way pupil living near to School and scoring minimum required marks, would get place before those who live Far Far Away. Looking at the minimum cut-offs of the previous years, many pupil, outside the borough of Kingston, Richmond and surround, would still get places in 2nd category. Schools may have better statistics about scores of applicants living nearer to these schools.

Super bright children from Far Far Away or elsewhere would still get place if they score highest.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:25 am 
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Hi, why would you do straight line distance in stead of by lit road/footpath? Wouldn't this mean that someone on the other side or the river (but nowhere near a bridge!) or the other side of the park could be deemed as living nearer the school than someone who would in effect have to travel far less distance to actually get there, an would therefore in effect, be more local?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:35 am 
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mad? wrote:
Hi, why would you do straight line distance in stead of by lit road/footpath? Wouldn't this mean that someone on the other side or the river (but nowhere near a bridge!) or the other side of the park could be deemed as living nearer the school than someone who would in effect have to travel far less distance to actually get there, an would therefore in effect, be more local?


Good point, but I see that that's the way the new admission system works in most grammar school admissions.

I stand to be corrected.

(and what if they have a boat?)


Edit:

Kingston community schools follow distance on the basis of shortest walking route.


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(and what if they have a boat?)

They'll be going indie :D

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:43 am 
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mad? wrote:
tiffinboys wrote:
mad? wrote:
(and what if they have a boat?)

They'll be going indie :D


Brilliant, then it won't effect us on this side of the river any way.


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The Kingston LA has a map on their website somewhere, by which you can measure distances to school. Not sure how they do their calculations for that but, presumably the same measuring criteria would apply.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:54 pm 
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Between 1600 to 1700 pupil sat for these exams this year, compared to about 1300 last year. Where did this increase comes from?

Students number rising, more aspire for grammar schools or shift from the private schools?

If shift from the private schools, who are they attracting now?


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