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 Post subject: ISEB exams
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:27 pm 
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Can anyone tell me the level of difficulty of these exams at 11+ - compared to HABs please?

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 Post subject: Re: ISEB exams
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:16 am 
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Hi there, you can buy past pears from the ISEB. I would buy a pack.
Also bear in mind that the senior school marks the paper, and sets the level required for entry, so it depends which school you are applying for.
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 Post subject: Re: ISEB exams
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:32 am 
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just going on what is available on line - it seems that ISEB maths is easier. English probably the same.

I would think ISEB is a good place to start though in terms of past papers practise before moving on to other indie school papers, ending with HABS papers which I think are the hardest.


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 Post subject: Re: ISEB exams
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:11 am 
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Personally we found the Merchant Taylors and Manchester Grammar papers harder than Habs Boys (DS agreed!) If your child can get around 60-70% in the Manchester papers, they should be on track for any independent school. He also found the City Boys the hardest English paper. Hope that helps!


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 Post subject: Re: ISEB exams
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:16 am 
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interesting view from boys schools. I was comparing to papers from girls school. Off to check City Boys website now! :)


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 Post subject: Re: ISEB exams
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:38 am 
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If you need to stretch them further in Maths, try the St. Paul's maths sample papers. They are on par with the MGS papers


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 Post subject: Re: ISEB exams
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:36 pm 
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Thanks for your replies - very helpful


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 Post subject: Re: ISEB exams
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:22 pm 
superdifey wrote:
Personally we found the Merchant Taylors and Manchester Grammar papers harder than Habs Boys (DS agreed!) If your child can get around 60-70% in the Manchester papers, they should be on track for any independent school. He also found the City Boys the hardest English paper. Hope that helps!

I know MGS well, pass mark is about >50-60% (depending on the cohort) on paper 2 maths , you could also order Withington girls' school past papers from their web-site paper 2 even harder then MGS paper 2 , a mixture of reasoning and maths -at the same level as St Pauls I would say. papers 1 MSG at standard state 11 plus level need to be scoring >> 85% more like > 90% at least for top tier Indies
BTW no answer sheet to WGS papers but I think I may have some maths answer sheets I have worked out myself and I would be happpy to e-mail to you if you want( if I can find them ?)
sorry no english model answer sheet , not my thing!


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 Post subject: Re: ISEB exams
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:41 pm 
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JSN wrote:
superdifey wrote:
Personally we found the Merchant Taylors and Manchester Grammar papers harder than Habs Boys (DS agreed!) If your child can get around 60-70% in the Manchester papers, they should be on track for any independent school. He also found the City Boys the hardest English paper. Hope that helps!

I know MGS well, pass mark is about >50-60% (depending on the cohort) on paper 2 maths , you could also order Withington girls' school past papers from their web-site paper 2 even harder then MGS paper 2 , a mixture of reasoning and maths -at the same level as St Pauls I would say. papers 1 MSG at standard state 11 plus level need to be scoring >> 85% more like > 90% at least for top tier Indies
BTW no answer sheet to WGS papers but I think I may have some maths answer sheets I have worked out myself and I would be happpy to e-mail to you if you want( if I can find them ?)
sorry no english model answer sheet , not my thing!


PLease can you send the above answers too...


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 Post subject: Re: ISEB exams
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:41 pm 
I'll have a root around in my well organised study and if I find them will post them on here for all to see.
BTW it may be worth buying the UKMT "ten years of maths challenges 1997-2006" in book form, junior level is excellent prep for top indies even intermediate level is useful for the top 1-2% up to question 20 or so , would not recommand the last 5 questions at this level for 11yr olds unless your child is some kind of maths prodigy, in which case why are you even bothering with any prep :lol: TBH intermediate level is probably overkill but my son enjoyed attempting them.
I should add when I mean 1-2% , I mean 1-2% of this rather self-selected cohort not the nation cohort , didn't want to panic anyone ! solid level 5a /6 is usually enough for all Indies except maybe Westminister School ,in a league of it's own IMO
1-2% would be in line for a very high close to 100% scholarships at top tier indies, I read somewhere for music scholarships candidates need to be level 6 distinction+ :shock: WHAT at 11yrs old that cannot be right ?


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