Sats keystage 1 advice please-reassurance needed.
Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 3:22 pm
Hi im new here apologies if posting in wrong place did scroll through and saw some key stage 1 mentioned.
Sorry if sound neurotic and pushy mum I am not honest!
A few things playing on my mind mostly year mine starts the city primary school crisis will become a secondary shortage .
Read that if child gets level 3 in year 2 sat,s that,s good indicator they get levels 5 and 6 in key stage 2. Has any ones child does badly at key stage 1 and caught up and exceeded?
In all honesty I feel horribly guilty and feel like messed up eldests education already.
She was always leader of the pack at nursery/preschool never had any worries about her starting school.
We picked a smallish rc primary 10 mins from house was although 45 per year so split intake although due to where her birthday was she was never in split class so was always reception but in middle, year 1 near the oldest in class 30, then pure year 2 here she once again combined with 15 youngest.
In reception she got lots homework, her teacher/job share was sick a lot but she was happy. At the last parents evening on that year did say im concerened shes not enjoying reading and picking it up as fast as others and was told not to worry every things fine.
reception report glowing
Efys scores well told 6 average and she got 6 for writing and reading
but 8 for numeracy and other things shes very social little girl who loved school so tried not to worry.
Then year 1 happened
In hindsight I should have got more involved sooner but parents evening no 1 told every things great shes joy to teach.
But my friends daughter was july same year and in split r1 class an her daughter and others seemed to be higher reading levels than mine or some in her year 1 class.
2nd parents evening was told yes there is some weakness an shes having extra help with phonics I thought great how proactive they doing something feel reassured.
Of course now looking back it was more to do with the year 1 phonics test introduced last year.
Last summer term was tricky one.
upset as she was behind others in her class.
silly petty row and low level bullying
struggling with homework.
getting 1 book a week
went to speak to teacher who told me every things fine.not to worry.
other things relavent
school ofsted downgraded from good to satisfactory and the report caused e some concern.
she passed the phonics test 38/40
end of year 1 report really bad said shes really struggling maths ad literacy,
she ended year 1 on oxford reading tree level 3 which is very low for that age.
national curriculum levels 1b writing, 1 b reading, 1b science , 1 b numeracy.
The expectation is 1a, went ee teacher who said not to stress that kids develop at diffrent rates shes where she needs to be!
Of course I dident want to expect low level expectation and her every year playing catchup. Most of year got higher even younger ones in r 1 class including freinds child whos ini genuis and got 1as and 2cs. I try not to get involved with the other mums chatting about grades but it alarmed me.
Over summer we did loads extra reading, writing and maths factor summer school.
When we started back we arranged appointment with head teacher and the class teacher.
The class 2 teacher took it quite personal we were not happy and felt she should get extra support but was told it was focussed on kids who got 1c or dident pass the magic phonics test and that our child was top phonics group and not to worry.
We have no idea why she was weak on science.They dident seem conecerened about maths at key stage 11 but said she was weak at it yet her efys numercay was above average.
The new class teacher was very strict set loads homework.
cue hours over crying over maths homework,
limiting reading to few pages per night , getting told off for over reading and was below nearly everyone elses levels in class and now younger ones combined was even more obvious how behind she was.
Spellings was getting 10/10 though year 1 and 1st term year 2 yet her spellings within written work are dire. new teacher said she needed to listen concentrate more, daughter said she dident understand, no one would help and confidence knocked.
She seemed so stressed and upset all time.
we tried to rectify it with head and teacher but they refused to listen to concerns or do anything.
We felt we had no other option than to pull her from that school as had lost confidence.
worried at effect of moving her mid year was after october half term.
Moved her to small village school half size but only 5 classes so mixed.
20 per year so she was in class 2 one of 10 year 2 and 20 year 1s.
new teacher was fab but had given notice so was finishing at xmas we were told of that before moving but felt old school so bad having nothing to lose.
Met with year 2 teacher 2 just before xmas for parents evening as missed one at old school and new one and wanted her take on dd before she left.
she said shes top phonics group. reading comprehensions fine but reading fluency and confidence needs working on, maths was ok not disaster, science good they dint grade science until end of year 2 in new school and science is taught in year groups of 20.
records and work transfered eventually only thing old year 2 teacher had graded at end term 1 was writing and put her at 1b still so saying made no progress over summer and 8 week term year 1. new teacher said she dident have enough evidence yet to regrade but not to worry but suggested she get extra one to one reading and spellings.
New school has no homework other than reading as much as she liked as enjoying reading more.
True to their word after xmas new teacher year 2 teacher no 3 started she likes her, ta giving extra one one help twice week snappy sounds and rapid read.
she gets to read from libary and online bug club.
mathaletics for maths if we want no maths homework.
specific literacy homework once a week for her .
2nd parents evening-really positive although they acknowledge she is behind some of the year 2 in her class so feel bad. worse shes behind some of year 1 as combined year 1 /2class.
The teachers levelling at end of this term and going to let us know.
Hoping shes on course for 2b which is expected min at end of year 2 but not hopeful about her hitting level 3 as massive jump in sub levels.
I feel shes made lots of progress is happier and getting one to one help she was being denied in last school and although the differntiate work its in much more subtle way than before and teachers very much carrot not all stick.
Friends daughter-at old school- well was told hes 2a already and anticipated to hit level 3 so shes rather smug and not very tactful about that making out that mines is very behind.Glad to be out of the pressure at old school.Worried that they need to improve would mean extra pressure on kids.
new schools very relaxed low key. what should i do to prep for sats if anything?
we reading a lot and doing maths factor and cbbc games.a
science bit more optimistic school will, raise that easily so just concentrated on writing, reading and maths.
Once again sorry for essay.
Im not sure right now where her strengths lie.
Shes very sporty does gym outside of school and told in school shes good at it to which think should be pay enough for bit.
Last sports day won all 3races.
last school wasent sporty at all new school is much more active shes doing afterschool gym and wants to do football and netball too.
Music last school dident allow instruments until year 5 which i felt late new school year 3.Also shes joining choir.
Speaking to few year 6parents last year and this year im so confused what to do.
We have no grammers
The city overlaps 4counties.
3 of the cuty top state schools are academies 2 were were private gone state other 2top performers are faith schools.
The girls academy banding on postcode lottory with 10%intake on passing language test.
catherdral again lottory but%musical aptitude test.
3rd is academic entrance test of some sort not 11+lottory.
Rc-cant as we not rc and oversubscribed..
Coe we could as batised coe but need 3years regular church attendance to get us in top group.
look to gloucestershire grammers 11+.
Look at academy in bath.
look at independents and wonder if could get scholarship /bursary possibly on sports.
we have many to choose from as most state comps dire.
local comp 43%gcse pass rate.
Local academy better but just so big.
We look round in year 5 apply start year 6 so another 2half years away.
Thinking about it now gives me time to put extra plans in motion.
Want to pick right senior school for daughter after primary mistake, ensure by key stage 2sats shes hitting higher levels, that shes happy and school best suits her and ideally get her on even academic playing field by start year 3/junior years.
The more options we have the better.
Sorry if sound mad.Hoping she catches up and can get into one of few good schools we have.
Anyone else been where I am?Love to hear some positive stories.
Eldest has 2siblings so stress feels like never end.
Prepared to tutor or go church more regular and support her in extra curricular so need to get her able to play one instrument high grade, good at sports, start learning foreign language ect.
Sorry if sound neurotic and pushy mum I am not honest!
A few things playing on my mind mostly year mine starts the city primary school crisis will become a secondary shortage .
Read that if child gets level 3 in year 2 sat,s that,s good indicator they get levels 5 and 6 in key stage 2. Has any ones child does badly at key stage 1 and caught up and exceeded?
In all honesty I feel horribly guilty and feel like messed up eldests education already.
She was always leader of the pack at nursery/preschool never had any worries about her starting school.
We picked a smallish rc primary 10 mins from house was although 45 per year so split intake although due to where her birthday was she was never in split class so was always reception but in middle, year 1 near the oldest in class 30, then pure year 2 here she once again combined with 15 youngest.
In reception she got lots homework, her teacher/job share was sick a lot but she was happy. At the last parents evening on that year did say im concerened shes not enjoying reading and picking it up as fast as others and was told not to worry every things fine.
reception report glowing
Efys scores well told 6 average and she got 6 for writing and reading
but 8 for numeracy and other things shes very social little girl who loved school so tried not to worry.
Then year 1 happened
In hindsight I should have got more involved sooner but parents evening no 1 told every things great shes joy to teach.
But my friends daughter was july same year and in split r1 class an her daughter and others seemed to be higher reading levels than mine or some in her year 1 class.
2nd parents evening was told yes there is some weakness an shes having extra help with phonics I thought great how proactive they doing something feel reassured.
Of course now looking back it was more to do with the year 1 phonics test introduced last year.
Last summer term was tricky one.
upset as she was behind others in her class.
silly petty row and low level bullying
struggling with homework.
getting 1 book a week
went to speak to teacher who told me every things fine.not to worry.
other things relavent
school ofsted downgraded from good to satisfactory and the report caused e some concern.
she passed the phonics test 38/40
end of year 1 report really bad said shes really struggling maths ad literacy,
she ended year 1 on oxford reading tree level 3 which is very low for that age.
national curriculum levels 1b writing, 1 b reading, 1b science , 1 b numeracy.
The expectation is 1a, went ee teacher who said not to stress that kids develop at diffrent rates shes where she needs to be!
Of course I dident want to expect low level expectation and her every year playing catchup. Most of year got higher even younger ones in r 1 class including freinds child whos ini genuis and got 1as and 2cs. I try not to get involved with the other mums chatting about grades but it alarmed me.
Over summer we did loads extra reading, writing and maths factor summer school.
When we started back we arranged appointment with head teacher and the class teacher.
The class 2 teacher took it quite personal we were not happy and felt she should get extra support but was told it was focussed on kids who got 1c or dident pass the magic phonics test and that our child was top phonics group and not to worry.
We have no idea why she was weak on science.They dident seem conecerened about maths at key stage 11 but said she was weak at it yet her efys numercay was above average.
The new class teacher was very strict set loads homework.
cue hours over crying over maths homework,
limiting reading to few pages per night , getting told off for over reading and was below nearly everyone elses levels in class and now younger ones combined was even more obvious how behind she was.
Spellings was getting 10/10 though year 1 and 1st term year 2 yet her spellings within written work are dire. new teacher said she needed to listen concentrate more, daughter said she dident understand, no one would help and confidence knocked.
She seemed so stressed and upset all time.
we tried to rectify it with head and teacher but they refused to listen to concerns or do anything.
We felt we had no other option than to pull her from that school as had lost confidence.
worried at effect of moving her mid year was after october half term.
Moved her to small village school half size but only 5 classes so mixed.
20 per year so she was in class 2 one of 10 year 2 and 20 year 1s.
new teacher was fab but had given notice so was finishing at xmas we were told of that before moving but felt old school so bad having nothing to lose.
Met with year 2 teacher 2 just before xmas for parents evening as missed one at old school and new one and wanted her take on dd before she left.
she said shes top phonics group. reading comprehensions fine but reading fluency and confidence needs working on, maths was ok not disaster, science good they dint grade science until end of year 2 in new school and science is taught in year groups of 20.
records and work transfered eventually only thing old year 2 teacher had graded at end term 1 was writing and put her at 1b still so saying made no progress over summer and 8 week term year 1. new teacher said she dident have enough evidence yet to regrade but not to worry but suggested she get extra one to one reading and spellings.
New school has no homework other than reading as much as she liked as enjoying reading more.
True to their word after xmas new teacher year 2 teacher no 3 started she likes her, ta giving extra one one help twice week snappy sounds and rapid read.
she gets to read from libary and online bug club.
mathaletics for maths if we want no maths homework.
specific literacy homework once a week for her .
2nd parents evening-really positive although they acknowledge she is behind some of the year 2 in her class so feel bad. worse shes behind some of year 1 as combined year 1 /2class.
The teachers levelling at end of this term and going to let us know.
Hoping shes on course for 2b which is expected min at end of year 2 but not hopeful about her hitting level 3 as massive jump in sub levels.
I feel shes made lots of progress is happier and getting one to one help she was being denied in last school and although the differntiate work its in much more subtle way than before and teachers very much carrot not all stick.
Friends daughter-at old school- well was told hes 2a already and anticipated to hit level 3 so shes rather smug and not very tactful about that making out that mines is very behind.Glad to be out of the pressure at old school.Worried that they need to improve would mean extra pressure on kids.
new schools very relaxed low key. what should i do to prep for sats if anything?
we reading a lot and doing maths factor and cbbc games.a
science bit more optimistic school will, raise that easily so just concentrated on writing, reading and maths.
Once again sorry for essay.
Im not sure right now where her strengths lie.
Shes very sporty does gym outside of school and told in school shes good at it to which think should be pay enough for bit.
Last sports day won all 3races.
last school wasent sporty at all new school is much more active shes doing afterschool gym and wants to do football and netball too.
Music last school dident allow instruments until year 5 which i felt late new school year 3.Also shes joining choir.
Speaking to few year 6parents last year and this year im so confused what to do.
We have no grammers
The city overlaps 4counties.
3 of the cuty top state schools are academies 2 were were private gone state other 2top performers are faith schools.
The girls academy banding on postcode lottory with 10%intake on passing language test.
catherdral again lottory but%musical aptitude test.
3rd is academic entrance test of some sort not 11+lottory.
Rc-cant as we not rc and oversubscribed..
Coe we could as batised coe but need 3years regular church attendance to get us in top group.
look to gloucestershire grammers 11+.
Look at academy in bath.
look at independents and wonder if could get scholarship /bursary possibly on sports.
we have many to choose from as most state comps dire.
local comp 43%gcse pass rate.
Local academy better but just so big.
We look round in year 5 apply start year 6 so another 2half years away.
Thinking about it now gives me time to put extra plans in motion.
Want to pick right senior school for daughter after primary mistake, ensure by key stage 2sats shes hitting higher levels, that shes happy and school best suits her and ideally get her on even academic playing field by start year 3/junior years.
The more options we have the better.
Sorry if sound mad.Hoping she catches up and can get into one of few good schools we have.
Anyone else been where I am?Love to hear some positive stories.
Eldest has 2siblings so stress feels like never end.
Prepared to tutor or go church more regular and support her in extra curricular so need to get her able to play one instrument high grade, good at sports, start learning foreign language ect.