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Sublevel threshold, age standardisation and timing questions

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:01 pm
by berks_mum
Maths tests last week - Level 3-5 past paper ( mental maths, calculator and non calculator).

Score : 91 out of 100. (raw score)
Level told : 5B

Questions :
1) I thought non-calculator testing was outdated. Why do schools use it ?
2) Is it a normal practice for schools to do past SATs tests in Yr 5 ?
3) The 'level threshold' document says 79 - 100 is level 5. It doesn't mention sub levels. How are they divided (roughly 7 x 3 ?)
4) Are SATS scores standardised ?
5) Will there be another round of testing in the next term or is this the level for this year ?

Re: Sublevel threshold, age standardisation and timing quest

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:06 pm
by moved
If this was a year 5 QCA paper, then it is now old, but plenty of schools are still using them.

The new papers for year 6 are only non-calculator, but calculator use is still part of the national curriculum. Year 5 will not use the new national curriculum until they are in year 7.

It is up to the school how often and with what they test to help produce the mountain of data required of them.

APS data is required every term and it is mostly still based on national curriculum levels.

Tests for 2016, yrs 2 and 6, will not have a mental maths test, but there will be an arithmetic test.

Re: Sublevel threshold, age standardisation and timing quest

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:15 pm
by Bobmumof3
Paper 2 for both level 3-5 and level 6 is a calculator paper.

Well that's what my ds in Year 6 has been prepared for!

Re: Sublevel threshold, age standardisation and timing quest

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:18 pm
by berks_mum
Just to clarify, this was for the current Yr5 class. Most probably it was the past paper of year 2010/2011 (from my child's memory).

Re: Sublevel threshold, age standardisation and timing quest

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:19 pm
by Bobmumof3
Oh and as for sublevels. The 80-100 is in the range 5.0 - 5.9. Teachers would then use the decimal to evaluate the overall level. So 5.0 - 5.3 is 5c, 5.4- 5.6 is 5b and 5.7-5.9 is 5a.

We'll certainly the ks2 Data arriving at secondary is dealt with in that fashion.

Re: Sublevel threshold, age standardisation and timing quest

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:38 pm
by berks_mum
Thanks Bobmumof3. So a score of 91 is 5.55, hence 5B.

Is the data arriving in secondary standardised or raw score ? Do you know how it will be standardised for a July born child ?

Re: Sublevel threshold, age standardisation and timing quest

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:42 pm
by berks_mum
Thanks moved. So the current Year 5 will not do a calculator paper in May 2015 but they will do a mental maths test.

Re: Sublevel threshold, age standardisation and timing quest

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:10 pm
by moved
Exactly, papers A and B have been renamed as papers 1 & 2 to avoid any confusion.

The only calculator allowed papers for the foreseeable future will be 2014 and 2015 L6 paper 2. Beyond that there will be no level 6, nor any calculator paper.

However, there is an election in May 2015! :lol:

Re: Sublevel threshold, age standardisation and timing quest

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:16 pm
by Guest55
Paper 2 for both level 3-5 and level 6 is a calculator paper.

level 3 to 5 in 2014 has NO CALCULATOR papers - Bobmumof3 - what you have posted is incorrect.

Re: Sublevel threshold, age standardisation and timing quest

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:18 pm
by yoyo123
However, there is an election in May 2015
and breathe...for a few minutes at least..