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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:05 am 
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Bucks appeal statistics for 2009, taken from the Headteachers Manual for Transfer to Secondary School 2010:

"For 2009, of the many children who went to selection appeal, less than half were successful (40.4%). Last year 850 appeals were lodged, of which 343 were successful. In the vast majority of these cases, there was strong headteacher support and over 85% of the successful appeals were for scores between 116 and 120. However, not all children scoring between these two scores were successful, even on 120 there can be no guarantee of success through the appeal process."

Score -- Successful -- Not Successful -- Total --- % Successful
-- 120 ----------- 106 ------------- 24 ----------- 130 ------------ 81.5
-- 119 ------------ 79 ------------- 43 ------------122 ------------ 64.8
-- 118 ------------ 45 ------------- 61 ------------106 ------------ 42.5
-- 117 ------------ 39 ------------- 74 ----------- 113 ------------ 34.5
-- 116 ------------ 25 ------------- 70 ------------- 95 ----------- 26.3
-- 115 ------------ 17 ------------- 50 ------------- 67 ----------- 25.4
-- 114 ------------ 14 ------------- 41 ------------- 55 ----------- 25.5
-- 113 ------------- 6 ------------- 28 ------------- 34 ----------- 17.6
-- 112 ------------- 3 ------------- 28 ------------- 31 ------------- 9.7
-- 111 ------------- 1 ------------- 15 ------------- 16 ------------- 6.3
-- 110 ------------- 2 ------------- 27 ------------- 29 ------------- 6.9
-<110 ------------- 6 ------------- 46 ------------- 52 ----------- 11.5


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This is very interesting and I am surprise at the number of people who did appeal with <110.

Do the same 3 panel members hear all 850 cases?

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Morning Glory wrote:
Do the same 3 panel members hear all 850 cases?


Ah - the life of a volunteer panel member: Assuming 30 mins per appeal, 7 hours work per day, it would take just over 60 working days, or three months, to hear all the appeals. Unpaid. Now it could be that these appeals take less time if they're not attended by parents. But just think of the huge piles of documentation they'd have to read through in the evenings!

Over here in Gloucestershire, appeals are not lodged until after results come out on National Allocation Day, and are mixed both non-qual and oversubscriptions. One panel will hear all the appeals for one school. Occasionally, one person may end up on two panels (for instance, if a panelist drops out sick a few hours before the first appeal). But whatever - 5 or 6 days of appeals takes a lot of mental energy!

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Appeal :shock: the word just sends me into a panic :shock:

For me, even with the scores my DD achieved, I will not assume anything ... I need to convince the panel that she is right for this type of schooling!

Have to say ... with all the wonderful advice given/read on this forum ... I will be ready :wink:

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Morning Glory wrote:
This is very interesting and I am surprise at the number of people who did appeal with <110.
And also quite a number whose children scored >=119 didn't?


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Morning Glory wrote:
This is very interesting and I am surprise at the number of people who did appeal with <110.

The fact that a small number succeeded shows that it is possible in very exceptional cases. Of the remainder, I suspect that some would have had exceptional reasons but insufficient academic evidence, while others were just unrealistic!

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Do the same 3 panel members hear all 850 cases?
Ideally, they would do, but as Capers has pointed out, it can't be done with 850 cases.
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Assuming 30 mins per appeal, 7 hours work per day, it would take just over 60 working days, or three months, to hear all the appeals. Unpaid.
Although 30 minutes is a reasonable allocation for a hearing, at least another 15 minutes is scheduled to take and record each decision.

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