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Etienne
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Post by Etienne »

Dear Peter

It's certainly worth a mention, but I would have been looking to see what effect the ongoing extenuating circumstances had on routine curriculum work.

You could of course argue that her year 5 N.C. levels and her KS2 predictions (if less than 3 x 5s) would have been higher had it not been for all the problems - but that still leaves the question "So what evidence is there of very high ability?" At the moment the only hope seems to be a very strong recommendation from the school.

Having said that, the gap is no more than 3 marks, so I do think it's worth an appeal.

Regards
Etienne
peter

Post by peter »

Dear Etienne, thank you for your help, I have made an appointment with the Head. Is it worth saying at appeal that she was not tutored etc because I knew she was having problems and didn't want to put ant extra pressure on her? thank you Peter
Etienne
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Post by Etienne »

Dear Peter

Yes, if that was the reason, I think you should mention it.

Good luck with the head.

Best wishes
Etienne
peter

Post by peter »

Dear Etienne, one last thing! will it help that the school we are appealing for has specialist status for humanities and those are her strong subjects ie level 3 end of year 2 and level 5 end of year 5 ? thank you I promise no more questions after this ! Peter
Etienne
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Post by Etienne »

Dear Peter

As we are dealing here (I think) with foundation schools , you will need to study the appeal pack very carefully to see just how they manage the two different types of appeal (i.e. appeal against non-qualification, and appeal against the school having no places), and what exactly it is that you are appealing against.

If the arrangements are not clear, then you will need to contact the clerk (or whoever is responsible) to insist on clarification.

I have written elsewhere of a parent who has gone to judicial review because the arrangements were unclear. This wasn't in Berks., but I recall that Catherine has used the word "blurred" to describe the appeal arrangements for the Slough grammar schools.

The argument you mention has nothing to do with non-qualification.

However, if you appeal successfully against the decision that your daughter has not qualified, and the school is full, the panel will then have to consider whether your reasons for wanting a particular school outweigh the prejudice that would be caused by admitting an extra pupil. It is at this point that your argument would become relevant.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Etienne
Catherine
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Post by Catherine »

Dear Etienne and Peter,

As Peter mentions that the school is a specialist in humanities, I guess that it is St B. The appeals are held separately from those for the other grammars, and I really can't comment on the appeal procedure.

Regards

Catherine
Etienne
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Post by Etienne »

Thanks for clarifying that, Catherine.

Best regards
Etienne
peter

Post by peter »

thanks for your help, I note on a previous thread that Nfer say that preparation can make a marginal difference in the score, is there anywhere where this is written ? thanks again
Etienne
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Post by Etienne »

Dear Peter

This was a quote from Bucks, justifying their stance that the only preparation needed is the 3 practice papers they provide, and discouraging anything more.

You should be arguing that Berks positively recommend preparation. If Catherine is reading this, she might be able to point you to where the information can be found.

Regards
Etienne
Catherine
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Post by Catherine »

Dear Etienne and Peter,

There used to be a strong advice on Slough Grammar website about preparation, something like: "We strongly advise that you prepare your child etc.." But it not there anymore. The only advice on any of the four schools site now is to purchase the NFER-nelson papers.

However, during their information evening in July, Slough Grammar strongly advise to prepare for the test. All the schools give the same advice during their open evening in september, but it is a bit late by then.

The primary schools also provide some coaching, although to a variable extend.
Here's a link to an NFER report about Slough secondary schools:
http://www.nfer.ac.uk/publications/othe ... report.pdf
It is interesting but a bit old (2001) so here's some recent comments from this forum
http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum/ ... c&start=15

Hope this helps

Catherine
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