unsuccessful appeal
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Sally-Anne
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Hi Mum1
Thanks for posting that - very helpful.
I don't know about today being the most miserable day of the year - there are 30 other days in January to compete with it! So, once you've bought the lottery ticket, have a look at this website:
http://www.groundhog.org/
February 2nd, or "Groundhog Day" is just around the corner. I loved the film (nothing to do with Bill Murray, of course), but Feb 2nd also happens to be a birthday in our family, so we've always been rather keen on it. You can then place your bet on what Punxsutawney Phil will have to say - it's cheaper than the lottery, and a 50/50 chance!
Maybe we should throw a "virtual" Groundhog Day party on the Forum to cheer up all the failed January Appealers?!
(Wow, ForumAdmin, is this off thread or what?)
Sally-Anne
Thanks for posting that - very helpful.
I don't know about today being the most miserable day of the year - there are 30 other days in January to compete with it! So, once you've bought the lottery ticket, have a look at this website:
http://www.groundhog.org/
February 2nd, or "Groundhog Day" is just around the corner. I loved the film (nothing to do with Bill Murray, of course), but Feb 2nd also happens to be a birthday in our family, so we've always been rather keen on it. You can then place your bet on what Punxsutawney Phil will have to say - it's cheaper than the lottery, and a 50/50 chance!
Maybe we should throw a "virtual" Groundhog Day party on the Forum to cheer up all the failed January Appealers?!
(Wow, ForumAdmin, is this off thread or what?)
Sally-Anne
Our papers have arrived this morning and as we had feared the reasons given by the panel show that they were not au fait with the evidence presented. Three comments they give to explain their decision are incorrect and contrary to facts stated by us in the appeal and what was in the written evidence.
When we came out the appeal and were discussing how it had gone we had both felt that the appeal panel had got some facts wrong but neither of us had felt suffieciently confident in the appeal to challenge them strongly as we had both felt that if we contradicted them it would come across as 'pushy' and not be in our favour. Also the interjections by the LA rep had disrupted our flow to some of their questions.
I am really confused over whether their failure to pick up the facts correctly are maladministration or would it count as new evidence?
Also when I spoke to my son's head she was not happy that they had taken the lack of her ranking him as such strong evidence against a successful appeal. He was new to the school and that was why he wasn't on the ranking and when i asked her she said that she was not allowed to submit an amendment. She would now write in support of us, so do we go for new evidence and ask for a re-appeal?
Can we go for maladministation and new evidence?
Help?!
When we came out the appeal and were discussing how it had gone we had both felt that the appeal panel had got some facts wrong but neither of us had felt suffieciently confident in the appeal to challenge them strongly as we had both felt that if we contradicted them it would come across as 'pushy' and not be in our favour. Also the interjections by the LA rep had disrupted our flow to some of their questions.
I am really confused over whether their failure to pick up the facts correctly are maladministration or would it count as new evidence?
Also when I spoke to my son's head she was not happy that they had taken the lack of her ranking him as such strong evidence against a successful appeal. He was new to the school and that was why he wasn't on the ranking and when i asked her she said that she was not allowed to submit an amendment. She would now write in support of us, so do we go for new evidence and ask for a re-appeal?
Can we go for maladministation and new evidence?
Help?!
Our papers have arrived this morning and as we had feared the reasons given by the panel show that they were not au fait with the evidence presented. Three comments they give to explain their decision are incorrect and contrary to facts stated by us in the appeal and what was in the written evidence.
When we came out the appeal and were discussing how it had gone we had both felt that the appeal panel had got some facts wrong but neither of us had felt suffieciently confident in the appeal to challenge them strongly as we had both felt that if we contradicted them it would come across as 'pushy' and not be in our favour. Also the interjections by the LA rep had disrupted our flow to some of their questions.
I am really confused over whether their failure to pick up the facts correctly are maladministration or would it count as new evidence?
Also when I spoke to my son's head she was not happy that they had taken the lack of her ranking him as such strong evidence against a successful appeal. He was new to the school and that was why he wasn't on the ranking and when i asked her she said that she was not allowed to submit an amendment. She would now write in support of us, so do we go for new evidence and ask for a re-appeal?
Can we go for maladministation and new evidence?
Help?!
When we came out the appeal and were discussing how it had gone we had both felt that the appeal panel had got some facts wrong but neither of us had felt suffieciently confident in the appeal to challenge them strongly as we had both felt that if we contradicted them it would come across as 'pushy' and not be in our favour. Also the interjections by the LA rep had disrupted our flow to some of their questions.
I am really confused over whether their failure to pick up the facts correctly are maladministration or would it count as new evidence?
Also when I spoke to my son's head she was not happy that they had taken the lack of her ranking him as such strong evidence against a successful appeal. He was new to the school and that was why he wasn't on the ranking and when i asked her she said that she was not allowed to submit an amendment. She would now write in support of us, so do we go for new evidence and ask for a re-appeal?
Can we go for maladministation and new evidence?
Help?!
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Guest55
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Guest55
I doubt it will be quick whatever you do - a firiend got a re-Appeal and it took three months to arrange. This means you will miss first allocation - then if you are hoping for a very popular school you will probably have to appeal to get in!
But - do go for it - my friend's re-Appeal was succesful and they got the school they wanted - but never an apology for the months of distress ...
But - do go for it - my friend's re-Appeal was succesful and they got the school they wanted - but never an apology for the months of distress ...
Dear mum1mum1 wrote:Three comments they give to explain their decision are incorrect and contrary to facts stated by us in the appeal and what was in the written evidence.
If the 3 facts really were significant facts, then you might have a justifiable complaint. I cannot really give an opinion without knowing exactly what the facts were (and I appreciate you may not wish to state them publicly).
I see no reason why you cannot make a complaint and submit "significant new evidence that was not available at the time of the appeal" simultaneously.
You have a year in which to complain to the ombudsman (not that I would suggest leaving it that long
)This link might be of interest:
http://www.lgo.org.uk/pdf/howcompcouncil.pdf
I would not recommend contacting Admissions for advice about appeals!
The order of business makes clear who should be speaking and when. If the notes show that the LEA rep. was making unreasonable interruptions, this could be grounds for a complaint.mum1 wrote:Also the interjections by the LA rep had disrupted our flow to some of their questions.
To begin with, I would suggest that you follow the advice in the final section of the Q&As. Put your complaints in writing and send them to the Appeals Office, Legal & Democratic Services, Old County Offices, Aylesbury. If I remember correctly, you should get an acknowledgement within a week, and an full response within a month at the very latest.
You could try raising the issue of the headteacher ranking in your letter to see what response you get (but I suspect that significant new evidence would ultimately be a matter for Admissions).
Regards
Etienne
