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 Post subject: Schools comparison
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:46 pm 
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I'm new to the forum (in Bucks) but have learnt a lot since getting my DD's results a couple of weeks ago, thanks everyone - I never knew what a CAT score was until 2 weeks ago! She got 114/115 which doesn't bode well for an appeal :( but we are going for one based on her academics ... no mitigating circumstances. Her HT rating is 1:1, Yr 4 CAT scores VR 117, QT 119, NVR 121 and Year 5 VR 125, QT 128 and NVR 135. Yr 5 SATS are Maths 5a, English & Science 5b, predicted Yr 6 SATS all 5a (although her class teacher says if they were allowed to give a 6, then she'd get it for Maths).

Question: at appeal can we counter the LEA's position that she is better suited to upper than grammar, based on her 11+? Is it ok if we submit evidence re. the UNsuitability of our local upper school, not just DD's suitability for grammar? There is v strong evidence including statements in the latest OFSTED that able students at the upper are not supported/catered for.


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 Post subject: Re: Schools comparison
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:01 pm 
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the main aim in appeals is to prove that the child has the academic ability to be at a GS and the evidence must show why the GS is the right school for them and NOT why you are not happy with another school or why the school may not be suitable for them

So.... go for the appeal with as much academic evidence / letters from teachers / scores as you can muster to show that the GS is the RIGHT place for them


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 Post subject: Re: Schools comparison
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:09 pm 
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OK thanks, we've got all the academic evidence possible with great support from school so fingers crossed.....


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 Post subject: Re: Schools comparison
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:12 pm 
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Indeed! Good Luck!

.... we spend much of our time with fingers crossed on this forum thohts swyh our tipengg guts sooo bbad... :roll: :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Schools comparison
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:37 pm 
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Welcome, Jennie.

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She got 114/115 which doesn't bode well for an appeal but we are going for one based on her academics ... no mitigating circumstances.
An appeal can succeed on lower scores provided the academic evidence is very persuasive.

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Her HT rating is 1:1
That is helpful, but it will depend on how accurate the Head’s recommendations were overall.

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Yr 4 CAT scores VR 117, QT 119, NVR 121 and Year 5 VR 125, QT 128 and NVR 135.
I think most panels would recognise a score in the upper 120s as being very good, so the Year 5 scores are encouraging and the Year 4 scores respectable. You might mention that your daughter appears stronger at NVR.

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Yr 5 SATS are Maths 5a, English & Science 5b, predicted Yr 6 SATS all 5a (although her class teacher says if they were allowed to give a 6, then she'd get it for Maths).
Good. Confirmation of the latter point in writing would be helpful.

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Is it ok if we submit evidence re. the UNsuitability of our local upper school
The panel can only consider the general issue of non-qualification at this appeal. As hermanmunster has said, you need to prove that your daughter is suitable for a grammar school education.

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