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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:14 pm 
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Hi Sally-Anne / Etienne,
Is it advisable to write a full explanation of our extenuating circumstances in the initial appeal form? It's quite a long! Or could I just say there were problems and give a full explanation at the actual appeal?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:01 pm 
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Welcome back, osm - you obviously love appeals! :)

Where extenuating circumstances are concerned, ideally you would just attach the evidence, and let it speak for itself.

It may depend on how significant the circumstances are, and whether there is evidence available.

Can you send a bit more detail to the Appeals Box?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:01 pm 
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Thank you Etienne. I've posted the details to the appeals box.
osm
p.s. I really, really, really, don't want to do this again, but if you don't try, you'll always be wondering!!


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:24 pm 
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Hi osm

I'm assuming there's no evidence, so you need to strike a chord with the panel at a human, emotional level - and I think this sort of explanation is more likely to elicit empathy at the hearing than it would in cold print.

For the written submission, therefore, I'd just mention very briefly that there was an incident at the time of the test which you'd like to bring to the panel's attention at the hearing. (No more than that!)

At the hearing, I suggest you go through the main paragraph you sent me, but omit the first two sentences because points that apply to everyone are unlikely to count for anything.

I'd also omit the word "major" at the beginning, because it will have more impact if the panel are left to deduce this for themselves from what follows.

The rest of the paragraph is fine, but shouldn't be any longer.

At the end of it, move quickly on to "We would ask the panel to take this incident into account, but our focus is above all on the academic evidence which we hope you will find persuasive."

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:37 am 
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Thanks Etienne.
I have checked with the school and it has all been noted in the invigilators log, will that help?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:10 pm 
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Whoever represents the school at the hearing is unlikely to know anything about this, unless forewarned.

• I would therefore suggest adjusting your written submission so that it reads "There was an incident during the 11+ test (confirmed in the invigilator's log), which I'd like to discuss with the panel at the hearing."

• Secondly, see if you can get hold of a copy:
http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/appeal ... cation#b58
so that you can add it to your appeal papers either now or as late evidence.

It could certainly prove that there was an incident, if not what the impact was.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:29 am 
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Thanks Etienne.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:21 pm 
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I tried to get hold of a copy of the log but I was refused. However, I have been told that it will be available at the appeal.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:54 pm 
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I see no reason why they can't give you a copy to help you prepare for the appeal - provided that any names other than your son's are blotted out.
If you wanted to, I think you could insist under the Data Protection Act on a copy of any entry relating to your son.

Whether it matters rather depends on what it says - but if you feel at the hearing that you've been disadvantaged, it's important to ask the clerk to note that the school is introducing evidence that you've not had time to consider!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:03 pm 
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Thanks Etienne,
I was just glad it would be available at the appeal, as it will back up my evidence. The school did check the log and the incident was recorded. I hope I'm not being too naïve!
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