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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:48 pm 
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Hi

I wanted to know about appeals, how to start!, my son missed the pass mark by 1 mark (and with rounding down only 0.3 !)

His brothers went / go to the local grammar school, one just left to go to Oxford and the other is current year 8, I Really wanted them in the same school, can I appeal?
Its a Bexley borough school, do I try to get the head to support me or just appeal to the school , how do you go about this this is all new to me.

He is level 5/6 in all subject areas, I think the issue was time, he didn't finish the papers.

Advice Please.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:04 pm 
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can I appeal?
Yes, certainly - but you will have to include the school on your CAF form, and then wait to be formally refused at the beginning of March 2016.

You submit an appeal form (normally by the end of March), and the hearing will probably take place in the summer term.

Meanwhile there is plenty of reading for you to do:
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:12 pm 
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Thanks I'm working my way through that now....all new territory.

Does already having a sibling at the school strengthen my appeal at all?......he was just 1 mark off, and didn't finish the paper, sibling is in the oversubscription criteria, but because he was 1 mark off I wasn't sure if it still counted !

how do I get figures for how many appeals won/ were marks off etc for his school (Beths )


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:12 pm 
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aatjjj1 wrote:
Thanks I'm working my way through that now....all new territory.

how do I get figures for how many appeals won/ were marks off etc for his school (Beths )


I asked the school when I went through appeal for my DS ( different area) they were very open about it and happy to tell me - that may not be the same for every school. If there are a lot of children above the cut off who do not get places and the school really is full to capacity then it will be a much harder appeal to win


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:26 pm 
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aatjjj1 wrote:
Does already having a sibling at the school strengthen my appeal at all?
Yes, it could help.
http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/appeal ... -school#c2

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sibling is in the oversubscription criteria, but because he was 1 mark off I wasn't sure if it still counted !
Appeal panels are free to consider any argument - they are not limited to the normal oversubscription criteria.

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how do I get figures for how many appeals won/ were marks off etc for his school (Beths )
Follow the link provided by Moderators above:
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=35032
Common questions, no. 3.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:56 am 
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ok I've done a lot of reading now and one thing I am still unsure of ......

would having a head teachers appeal (head has said we have full support ) hinder our chances at appeal to our chosen school is unsuccessful?

With having a sibling link which should I chose between >? or just try both....I don't want to make a mistake here.

Can someone advise ?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:51 pm 
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would having a head teachers appeal (head has said we have full support ) hinder our chances at appeal to our chosen school is unsuccessful?

It depends whether the admission authority will seek to argue at an appeal that there's already been a 'fair, consistent & objective' review. In Medway and Bucks they do, which is a serious problem. In Kent (to their credit) they don't.
I don't know about Bexley - you'll need to enquire. Try asking the grammar schools.

The only thing I could find on the council's website is:
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Please note that selective decisions will only be
changed by the Review Panel in exceptional circumstances
Note the word "exceptional".

However, you do need to investigate the success rate for appeals at the school(s) you're interested in - it's not impossible that favourable decisions via an appeal are also "exceptional".

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 4:18 pm 
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They sent me this the school in the last 3 years and appeals, I have no infor on headteachers review, except hey said they managed to get a couple through last year.

Beths Grammar

2015
Number heard 11
Number allowed 0

2014

Number heard 23
Number allowed 1

2013

Number heard 6
Number allowed 1

So it looks like I need to ask by doing the review does it affect the ability to appeal.


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aatjjj1 wrote:
They sent me this the school in the last 3 years and appeals, I have no infor on headteachers review, except hey said they managed to get a couple through last year.

Beths Grammar

2015
Number heard 11
Number allowed 0

2014

Number heard 23
Number allowed 1

2013

Number heard 6
Number allowed 1
Not a high success rate, unfortunately.

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So it looks like I need to ask by doing the review does it affect the ability to appeal.
No, because the answer to that question has to be "Yes, you are able to appeal".

The question to ask is - "If someone has had an unsuccessful review, do you make it part of your case at any subsequent appeal that there has already been a 'fair, consistent and objective' review?"

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