Go to navigation
It is currently Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:38 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 27 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:02 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:35 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Buckinghamshire
Having received paperwork for DCs appeal, I note that one of the IAP members is the same as in a previous appeal, one I am contesting through other channels. Would there be a conflict of interest with this panel member being on this new panel? Should I request a change of panel member prior to the appeal or just bring this as a point of concern at the time of the appeal?

_________________
Heartmum x x x


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:33 am 
Online

Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:41 am
Posts: 4581
Location: Essex
heartmum wrote:
Having received paperwork for DCs appeal, I note that one of the IAP members is the same as in a previous appeal, one I am contesting through other channels. Would there be a conflict of interest with this panel member being on this new panel? Should I request a change of panel member prior to the appeal or just bring this as a point of concern at the time of the appeal?


Appeal panel members are volunteers (at least, they are in our area) and there are only so many of them to go round, especially at this time of the year. At a recent training session (for my sins, I shall be one soon :) ), we were told that most complaints are dealt with entirely by the County Hall staff and the panel members concerned probably wouldn't ever know if one had been made. Unless your complaint was directed specifically at that particular panel member?

_________________
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.Groucho Marx


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:32 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:21 pm
Posts: 11931
Personally, I'd want a 'fresh' panel.

If the previous appeal has gone further then panel members will probably have been contacted if there is any dispute about the notes - that certainly happened in cases I'm aware of.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:58 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:23 am
Posts: 15
In 10 years I am only aware of one complaint on a panel hearing I sat on (not upheld) and was only told this a year after by the clerk when we met up for another set of appeals. If there were anymore I was never informed or asked for more details. The appeal panels notes are destroyed after the appeals and only the clerks notes are kept which would be the only ones that would be relevant so any appeal panel member would not really remember individual cases a few weeks afterwards. However I do agree with Guest55 that a fresh panel may be appropriate in this case as although the panel member may not be aware of a complaint they will certainly remember the case when reviewing the evidence and may be swayed for a rejection having come to that conclusion previously.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:55 pm
Posts: 234
I'd want a fresh panel. I wonder how this works? If they have to have the same panel for Stage 1 (group) and Stage 2 (individual), and they agree to change the panel, it opens up the possibility of other cases raising conflict when the new members are announced. Under the old system Stages 1 and 2 were not split.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:18 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:35 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Buckinghamshire
Bumblebeez wrote:
I'd want a fresh panel. I wonder how this works? If they have to have the same panel for Stage 1 (group) and Stage 2 (individual), and they agree to change the panel, it opens up the possibility of other cases raising conflict when the new members are announced. Under the old system Stages 1 and 2 were not split.

The panel member would be aware, has been spoken to regarding this matter. However this is the only panel member from my previous appeals, the other two I have not seen before - would I need to contact Bucks and request this one particular panel member being replaced. I am aware (as ToadMum mentioned) that there are not loads of people (who I know kindly give up their time for appeals) available, in which case that would already remove 6 potential panel members and two clerks from the pool :roll: very complicated but matter sensitive and still ongoing! So to get three completely unconnected panel members (I have two appeals - awaiting details on the second) may be quite hard!

_________________
Heartmum x x x


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:20 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:26 pm
Posts: 7059
heartmum wrote:
Having received paperwork for DCs appeal, I note that one of the IAP members is the same as in a previous appeal, one I am contesting through other channels. Would there be a conflict of interest with this panel member being on this new panel? Should I request a change of panel member prior to the appeal or just bring this as a point of concern at the time of the appeal?
You wouldn't normally be able to object to a panel member whom you've come across at a previous hearing.

However, if there is an issue with regard to the previous appeal, and this involves the panel member in question, I think you should notify the clerk/administrators as soon as possible, and see what they say. Tell them who is currently dealing with the outstanding matter.

Don't wait until the hearing - the whole point of your being sent the names of IAP members in advance is so that there is time to consider any concerns.

_________________
Etienne


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:48 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:19 pm
Posts: 4
I would also notify the appeal team as soon as possible as there could be an implication for others awaiting to have their appeals heard, if a new panel member is required


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:36 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:35 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Buckinghamshire
Thank you all for your helpful advice :) I have sent an email to the Appeals team, awaiting reply.

_________________
Heartmum x x x


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:41 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:35 pm
Posts: 1046
Location: Buckinghamshire
Response received from the appeal team ... 'do not consider that there is a conflict but if you are unhappy about *** hearing the current appeal they can reschedule the appeal ... however it would not be till September'.

I don't think it is fair for my DC to start another year at current school not knowing where she is going AGAIN ... waiting, waiting for an outcome. Will just have to go with allocated panel, I am sure the panel member will act in a professional manner.

_________________
Heartmum x x x


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 27 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
CALL 020 8204 5060
   
Privacy Policy | Refund Policy | Disclaimer | Copyright © 2004 – 2016