a question about standardised scores

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sarah
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Post by sarah »

Dear Etienne, Guest55 and KenR,

Thank you all.

I have the notes and Clerk wrote :

CH : 121 and 131 past marks on Nat. standardised test. Not quite comparable. Mr ...... would you like to comment.

LA rep : But neverless they are there, but not quite comparable to the Bucks test they are Nat standardised.

MY Husband : What mark would she have scored if known then?

LA rep : Can't say, difficult unfortunately

It just felt to us during the appeal that the scores were worthless and we had been foolish into thinking that it was good evidence.

When I write it down it doesn't come across as negative as it felt in that room.

Kind Regards

Sarah
Etienne
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Post by Etienne »

they are there, but not quite comparable to the Bucks test they are Nat standardised.
Ah, it's starting to sound like fair comment ..... :)

Was the evidence of the NFER scores referred to in the chair's summing up and/or the decision-making?
Etienne
sarah
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Post by sarah »

Chairs summary includes:

VR score 118 both tests
REC 1:1
P.O.S - 3rd
cohort of 29 - 1 qualified. qualifier ranked 8th in o.o.s.
Sat pred 3x5. opt SAT'S Dec 07 : English 5b : Maths 5c : Science 5b
VRT test scores : nov 06, 121 :may 07, 131

H/t says support unequivocal.
Ref from Dept Head/ year five teacher
Seen YR 5 report and violin teacher Ref.

THEN
Ext Circs ( personal will not include on the forum)

All three mentioned lack of academic evidence. One said about unreliable rankings.
All agree that there were ext. circs. VOTE 3-0.


Looks like we just didn't include enough. Not helped by the O.o.S.

Thank you so much for your time Etienne.

Kind Regards

Sarah
Guest55
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Post by Guest55 »

Sarah,

I suspect that the over-optimistic OoS caste some doubt on the HT's judgement so 'unequivocal support' did not carry the weight it would from an accurate OoS.
Etienne
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Post by Etienne »

Dear Sarah

I think it was well worth raising your original concerns, as you can be reassured that the NFER scores were properly considered. The chair's summing up seems perfectly fair.

It looks to me as if you had a good case. The extenuating circumstances were accepted, and you have some good alternative academic evidence (not really sure what else you could have put forward). You may have put your finger on the problem - if the OoS was so unreliable, it could well have undermined the head's "unequivocal support" and the 1:1.

Looking at the evidence, I suspect your appeal failed by only a very narrow margin, through no fault of your own, and that your son really ought to be at grammar school. I hope you will seriously consider the 12+ next year (see Sally-Anne's excellent sticky in the Bucks section).

Best regards
Etienne
sarah
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Post by sarah »

Dear Etienne

Thank you.

I still spend most of my time thinking WHY NOT US!!!

Your last post reassures me that we did try our best.

I wonder when I will eventually GET OVER IT!

My poor Husband, I'm driving him :x

All the Best to You

Sarah
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