LSS and RHS consultation 2012

youngest · Post by **youngest** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:48 pm

Sassie'sDad wrote: LSS although running costs are met by Local Authority I understand it continues to benefit substantially from the Laurence Sheriff Bequest . In the last 15 years the Govenors (the chair is the Headmaster of Rugby School) have spent £4 million on new buildings.

From this Rugby School document:
http://www.rugbyschool.net/information/ ... t_2010.pdf

It states:

2. Financial support for local schools
In the 1870s Rugby School founded and endowed a free boys‟ grammar school in Rugby which now operates in
the state sector (The Lawrence Sheriff School). Rugby School continues to provide endowment to The Lawrence
Sheriff School, paying to it one-fifth of the net annual income from properties in London; this is confirmed by Acts of
Parliament promoted by Rugby School (the Rugby School (Transfer) Act 1906, as amended by the Rugby School
Act 1922). The amount of such payment in the year to 31 July 2010 was approximately £500,000.

Do you think the Act of Parliament might have to be changed if the school became an academy?

Preston · Post by **Preston** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:20 am

Interesting.

I would highly surprised if any legal advice the school has taken indicated that becoming and academy would mean losing the 500k pa.

To be able to control admissions and curriculum as they see fit without any interfering might even be, for arguments sake, worth it in the long-run in any event, regardless of bequests.

Again, I would be very keen to know if 'in principle' the parents, staff and governors at LSS were pro or anti academy legislation. Forget the Rugby School £bequests for the moment, do those closely associated with LSS agree with the government's proposals or not?

That, for me, is the $million question.

cherrypicker · Post by **cherrypicker** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:27 pm

mike1880 wrote:You have to take GCSE results with a lot more than a pinch of salt. This is the average number of GCSEs/equivalents taken by pupils at the Warks selectives in the last few years:

Order: AGS / Ashln / KES / LSS / RHS / SGSG
2004: 11.3 / 10 / 11.2 / 10.7 / 10.5 / 10.6
2005: 11.2 / 10.2 / 10.2 / 12 / 10.6 / 10.1
2006: 11 / 10.4 / 10.6 / 12.7 / 10.6 / 9.7
2007: 11.1 / 10.8 / 10.6 / 13.4 / 10.5 / 10.4
2008: 11.2 / 11.9 / 10.6 / 15.4 / 10.8 / 10.5
2009: 11.1 / 11.6 / 10.9 / 14.5 / 11 / 11.5
2010: 11.5 / 11.2 / 11 / 15.2 / 10.3 / 11.8

Mike

Does this mean LSS is not so great? I had doubts as the "A" level results are not so good. But then again it becomes non-selective. I would like to know how many children are accepted at Oxbridge every year.

We should divide the average points by the average GCSEs taken to get an average points per exam.
10 A* is better than 15 A grades in my book!

The next milestone is University.

I always thought there was something "fishy" about LSS.
My son has just been allocated a place at LSS!

Rugbymum · Post by **Rugbymum** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:40 pm

Congrats Cherrypicker

Somewhere else on this forum it has been pointed out that the GCSE points include AS results which are worth quite a few points - and like many other secondary schools, LSS offers pupils AS levels. The stats were put together by outside bodies so LSS is not doing anything fishy

cherrypicker · Post by **cherrypicker** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:24 pm

Rugbymum wrote:Congrats Cherrypicker

Somewhere else on this forum it has been pointed out that the GCSE points include AS results which are worth quite a few points - and like many other secondary schools, LSS offers pupils AS levels. The stats were put together by outside bodies so LSS is not doing anything fishy

I think "A" level results are a better indicator, and LSS is not bad, but certainly not the best.
May be I chose the wrong school as KES seems better at "A" level which is what counts!

Oh well, I went for LSS and got it, but I question whether it was really wise.
The main reason for LSS was it was easier to get in as there are more places so the qualifying mark is always lower than KES.

I would prefer to see tables modified showing a maximum of the best 10 GCSEs grades considered and average points per subject. This way one cannot "play" the system.
I wonder if LSS do lots of course work based GCSEs in year and 5 to increase points.

Does anyone know what LSS does so boys study for 15 subjects? How do they organise this?

Rugbymum · Post by **Rugbymum** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:40 pm

Re A levels, as you have already said, LSS's 6th form is non selective - I am not sure if the same goes for KES? No idea how many have been offered Oxbridge this year.

My DS is in year 8 and they're choosing their GCSE options at the moment (this seems to be a growing trend in state secondaries and this is something I have mixed feelings about). GCSEs offered are in mainly traditional subjects, including MFLs, humanities, triple science, maths, music, English lit and English lang and because of their specialist status they have to do ICT. I think its in year 11 that they do additional GCSEs and ASs but a lot does depends on the individual child.

MoJo · Post by **MoJo** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:05 pm

I can confirm that my son is doing traditional subjects - they have to do the 3 sciences, and a language, and RE, and ICT. ICT will be an A/S or something else depending on ability. So we only had three options to choose. Of course there is the usual art/ electronics music drama in there too. Son has sat most of science - modules, and one geog/hist so far. English is exams. Nothing is course work anymore - too open to cheating. It's all exams, or locked in a room essays etc. The only low subject i know he has done is critical thinking/general studies - which they are sat for with no lessons. So they work hard for what they achieve.

A levels are non selective - thats why the marks are as they are - you need B's to get on most subjects - except the higher maths etc.

cherrypicker · Post by **cherrypicker** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:49 pm

MoJo wrote:I can confirm that my son is doing traditional subjects - they have to do the 3 sciences, and a language, and RE, and ICT. ICT will be an A/S or something else depending on ability. So we only had three options to choose. Of course there is the usual art/ electronics music drama in there too. Son has sat most of science - modules, and one geog/hist so far. English is exams. Nothing is course work anymore - too open to cheating. It's all exams, or locked in a room essays etc. The only low subject i know he has done is critical thinking/general studies - which they are sat for with no lessons. So they work hard for what they achieve.

A levels are non selective - thats why the marks are as they are - you need B's to get on most subjects - except the higher maths etc.

I suppose it is "opinion".
I would not have ranked RE, Drama, General Studies (not sure what music entails) as GCSEs that I would class as "academic".

Oh well resigned to GCSEs is year 9.
When will this become CGSEs in year 8 and then year 7?
How about "A" levels in year 10 or 11.
When will this stop?

Bring back "O" levels and "A" levels in their "correct" years at the old standard with zero course work!
I still have my notes in my loft!

MoJo · Post by **MoJo** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:52 pm

I was just saying that these are options (they can only choose 3 , and one of those is a language). My son isn't doing them . I would guess every secondary school in the country offers then, because they have to offer creative subjects.

If you aren't happy with your offer then let someone else have it then!

Rugbymum · Post by **Rugbymum** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:57 pm

Why put down LSS if you are not happy with the school?