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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:46 am 
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Yet another article in the Daily Mail!!

This one reporting Chris Woodhead's thoughts on middleclass children, genes and intelligence. Makes an interesting read I think and certainly one for debate:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... pt-it.html

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:57 am 
I do not agree with this at present but as our society becomes more equal I do think that bright working class children will eventually become middle income earners and the thick ones will remain at the bottom of the pile so it may well be the case in the future that middle class or middle income earners are brighter. The thick rich will generally always remain wealthy because they will inherit money or pay an intelligent middle class FA to look after his money! :lol:

Chris Woodhead is right in some ways that some people are more practically minded and not academic. Such people are the backbone of our working society and should be appreciated and not looked down on.


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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:07 am 
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Oh noooo
I feel a long thread coming on. :evil:
We are living proof that is not true.Don't want to sound like I am boasting so enough to say that my children are achieving very well, this despite having a very" working class "mum.
I think it would be very interesting to define what Chris Woodhead meant by "class". Who does he view as middle class? Are they middle to top earners who can afford more opportunity for their children, hence their greater success?
I could say a lot more, and often do :wink: , but have things to do.


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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:48 am 
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Let's have a science reference rather than relying on Daily Mail!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090317142841.htm

"Genes appear to influence intelligence by determining how well nerve axons are encased in myelin — the fatty sheath of "insulation" that coats our axons and allows for fast signaling bursts in our brains. The thicker the myelin, the faster the nerve impulses."

Maybe DNA testing soon rather than VR, NVR etc?

Have you seen the film GATTACA? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:59 am 
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Greetings LLL,
I knew I would find you here. :lol:

Seriously -I am glad to see that you think that the middle classes are not naturally more intelligent, as I had feared you might.

Perhaps I have misjudged you :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:05 am 
SVE - does that mean I shouldn't try and lose weight because I won't be as clever? :wink: I can hear some of you saying that might not be a bad thing! :shock:


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SunlampVexesEel wrote:
Maybe DNA testing soon rather than VR, NVR etc?

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:03 pm 
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Obviously the contoversy will surround his semi-eugenics point.
On that he was probably selectively misquoted, but I don't care because the issue is too complicated to be encapsulated in a Daily Mail article.

However I thought the more important and interesting point he was making is that:
1. some students are not academically able
2. it is bad for them to keep them studying academic subjects beyond a certain age
3. it is bad for their more academic peers that they should be kept at school beyond a certain age
4. it is bad for their teachers that they should be kept at school beyond a certain age
5. Therefore the government should drop its fixation with academic education for all, and start providing good vocational education for those that need it.
A win-win-win situation all round.
This is what Switzerland and Germany do.

One can quibble with his take on the details, but it seems an eminently sensible analysis. 8)
My guess is that people will prefer to discuss the controversy :roll: :(

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:10 pm 
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Agree :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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