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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:53 pm 
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The new national curriculum comes in 2014-15 so the current year 4 will have to be taught it when they are in year 6. However, new tests based on the new curriculum will not be available until summer 2016.

What do you make of this?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:24 pm 
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as it ever was....


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:08 pm 
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Badly implemented you mean?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:37 pm 
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Surely it is fairer than testing them on something they have only been taught for one year?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:03 pm 
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Dunno really. Seems a bit mad either way. Maybe they won't bother testing them at all!

Do you know Guest 55 if the new maths curriculum is mostly all an increase on the old curriculum, or have a few bits dropped out as well as the probability?

And what's the probability that they'll test the probability that they haven't been taught in year 6 at the end of year 6, and give questions on the non-calculator calculator paper that will need a calculator (if you get my drift!)?? !!

And what's the probabilty of there being a "primary level 6" paper when there will have been no "primary level 6" teaching that year? Or does "primary level 6" correspond well to the year 6 requirements of the new maths curriculum ( minus the probability)?

What's the probability of an answer to these questions?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:49 pm 
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I am not saying any more on the DRAFT curriculum; let's wait to see the real thing.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:37 am 
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Must admit I was thinking that G55, If it's anything like all teh other versions, it won;t last long anyway!

I am getting cynical in old age. The year that I qualified they told us that we were one of the only years that would actually teach the curriculum we had trained in. The huge coloured folders for each subject ( I think there were 14 strands for Science) It lasted for all of 2 more years...


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:18 am 
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But has maths and English changed very much in primary since the first introduction of a national curriculum?

I am sure you are right to be cynical but do you see this version not being passed in parliament before September 2014? And if the gov did then change in 2015 would the maths and English be so very very different? Or would we just go back to the old one do you think?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:44 am 
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well, if it's basically the same, then it won't matter about this year's y4.

From what I gather it is quite prescriptive about the way calculations should be done. The numeracy strategy was good in that it encouraged children to think about ways to do things and there was excellent discussion generated about the different approaches to a problem.

Personally, I like a problem solving approach to maths, getting children to talk about their maths. Will keep this as much as possible if I can.

I'll just wait and see when the time comes. Getting used to everythiing chopping and changing with each new 'initiative'


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 11:58 am 
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I agree with yoyo - the last twelve years or so have moved forward the approaches and students are far more confident to apply knowledge.

It would be a disaster if we go back to the 'old' methods when children just followed 'rules' and did not understand what they were doing.

I'm sure it is no coincidence that the numbers taking Maths and further maths at A level are higher than ever since those taught using NS ideas came into Secondary.

If Mr Gove really think maths is important then I wish he'd listen to the maths professionals and not pick and choose the research he considers.


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