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 Post subject: Nelson Mandela
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:24 am 
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Because when I logged on this morning I was really surprised there wasn't already a thread about him.....


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 Post subject: Re: Nelson Mandela
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:42 am 
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He seems to have been reinvented in the same way as Gerry Adams - from terrorist to politician. Maybe he did do some good work in the later part of his life but I have a reasonably long memory and he was not always so willing to work within the law.


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 Post subject: Re: Nelson Mandela
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:05 am 
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And, as a mixed race person, brought up in a none apartheid, black country (Kenya), who then moved to South Africa where my parents couldn't stay in the same hotel or go on the same beaches, or even get treatment on the same hospital wards, I salute the good work he did in later life, ensuring no other confused mixed race child had to go through that. I never condone violence in any shape or form, but having witnessed first hand the reality of apartheid, and the desperation for change, I at least can understand the reason behind it. And, I am glad that he was able to forgive his oppressors as he walked out of the door of his cell and that the majority of people were willing to accept that he too had changed, because, people can.

And, to bring this back to an education forum: "Education is the most powerful weapon you can choose to change the world." Nelson Mandela

RIP Madiba. Your long walk to freedom is now complete.


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 Post subject: Re: Nelson Mandela
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:48 am 
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At the risk of being ridiculed, I am quite happy to say that I think violence can be justified in some circumstances... I'm not really old enough to remember Mandela pre imprisonment, so would only be commenting on what I have read, but throughout history people have risen against oppressors... We're they all wrong?!

Edit: I would like to add that I do not support violence or salute it, but I think that there are cases where I can understand why people can be driven to violence, And justify it in their own minds.. I am lucky enough to have never been in this situation.


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 Post subject: Re: Nelson Mandela
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:23 am 
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magwich2 wrote:
He seems to have been reinvented in the same way as Gerry Adams - from terrorist to politician. Maybe he did do some good work in the later part of his life but I have a reasonably long memory and he was not always so willing to work within the law.


What a stupid comment.The "laws" were discriminatory and fascist..so would you work within these laws ?

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 Post subject: Re: Nelson Mandela
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:40 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Nelson Mandela
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Well said !

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 Post subject: Re: Nelson Mandela
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:55 am 
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RIP Madiba!

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 Post subject: Re: Nelson Mandela
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:57 am 
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Hi Sherry d
No need to be so rude - there are plenty of other people out there making similar comments so there is clearly a debate to be had.

I frequently agree with many of your posts and when I don't I accept there are differing points of view.

I quite agree with the point of view that South Africa under apartheid was not an acceptable way to treat people but that does not make the level of violence there automatically ok. I do not claim to know an enormous amount about the place but I consider that completely forgetting Mandela's past and re-writing history is not the way to go.

My opinion and not yours but we can surely be courteous about the matter?


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 Post subject: Re: Nelson Mandela
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