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quasimodo
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Thank you JE for the links to the various quiz's.

Since we have just finished Black history month in the UK and we are about to see a US president I have greatly admired leave office and some of his achievments rolled back I thought I would post a link to another person I have greatly admired in the rich heritage of black history.

When President Obama became president I thought that was the crowning glory of the civil rights movement.It is clear that struggle continues today when you saw many minorities including african americans being disenfranchised from voting in the recent election (this is not a gripe at the election result) and the black lives matter movement.

http://www.history.com/topics/black-his ... er-king-jr" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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This one is a quiz on Henry VIII :D

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I am posting this to ask a question to those who are in the know :?

I know that Puritans in the time of Cromwell disdained exuberant and lavish festivals. However, I do not understand why they would completely ban Christmas to the point that priests and ministers were not permitted to preach on Christmas day. So were there no Christmas mass? How would Christians in that time celebrate Jesus' birth?

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http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/st ... -cromwell/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.historytoday.com/chris-durst ... -christmas" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



I have been having a re education on Oliver Cromwell and Charles the first from my youngest as it forms part of her syllabus in year 8.Hope the links help.
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JaneEyre
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Thank you Quasi, I understand more why Christmas has become as fasting day under Cromwell’s rule ( paragraph 6), but I still do not understand if the priests were allowed to do a Christmas service or not… I am completely confused!!

In contrast, the fifth paragraph is this one:
Sunday became a very special day under he Puritans. Most forms of work were banned. Women caught doing unnecessary work on the Holy Day could be put in the stocks. Simply going for a Sunday walk (unless it was to church) could lead to a hefty fine.
This webpage make me understand more where the move about the interdiction about the Christmas 'merriments' come from ( though I still do not undertand if 'nativity rememberance' would take place). However, I am learning that even Easter was banned in 1647! That seems completely surrealistic to me if Cromwell considered himself a Christian.
quote: In June 1647, a further Parliamentary ordinance abolished the feasts of Christmas, Easter and Whitsun [...]
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Puritans in Britain and America

“Puritans” was the name given in the 16th century to a group of Protestants that arose from within the Church of England. As part of their broad-based reform agenda, they demanded that the church should be purified of any liturgy, ceremony or practices that were not found in the Bible.

Since the Christmas celebration was not mentioned in Scripture, the Puritans concluded that it must be stopped. When the group came to political power in England under Oliver Cromwell (1599-1658), they outlawed Christmas. Cromwell and the Puritans even banned special church services, not just on Christmas but also on Easter and Pentecost. Christmas Day was a regular work day and shops remained open. Parliament was to sit as it usually did. Criers were sometimes sent through the streets, shouting, “No Christmas today, no Christmas today.”

The year 1642 saw the first ordinance forbidding church services and civic festivities on Christmas day. These were issued regularly in the ensuing years. On June 8, 1645, the Puritan-dominated Parliament abolished the observance of Christmas, Easter, Whitsuntide and the Saints’ days. But in 1660, things changed. The monarchy was re-established, and the Puritan clergy were expelled from the Church of England.

But the Puritans were already established in America. Many Puritans had migrated to New England beginning in the second decade of the 17th century. In Puritan New England, Christmas was a regular workday, and any violation of this was punishable by fine or dismissal. In 1659, the Massachusetts Puritans declared the observation of Christmas to be a criminal offense. Offenders had to pay five shillings as a fine. In Massachusetts, Dec. 25 did not become a legal holiday until 1856. It is hard to realize now that worship on Christmas was outlawed in New England until the second half of the 19th century.

This is the link from which this was obtained.Hope it helps don't know how good a source this is.
https://www.gci.org/history/christmas" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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quasimodo wrote: Hope it helps don't know how good a source this is.
Thank you Quasi, it helps a lot :D and it converges with what is explained in the other links susmentioned, so the information presented here seems correct.
I am not more confused! :)
quasimodo wrote:Puritans in Britain and America
As part of their broad-based reform agenda, they demanded that the church should be purified of any liturgy, ceremony or practices that were not found in the Bible.
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JaneEyre wrote:WORLD WAR II QUIZ

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35/35, although it is an area of special interest for me, and we do have the wonderful historical resource in Bucks of Bletchley Park.
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Well done, Sally Anne! :D
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