Summer born children
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Dollydripmat
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Re: Summer born children
Interesting post Minesatea, I can't remember back in the 70's , I was winter born that might be why. Like most things I doubt there is a perfect solution at some point there has to be a cut off , youngest/oldest etc. dollyxxxx
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MedievalBabe
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I am also a 70s summer born, my primary school had a second entry for summer borns to reception in the February. I also repeated in a mixed Reception/Y1 class and then jumped one of the classes to move to juniors. They were very relaxed and many classes had a mix of year so Y1/2, Y3/4 etc to make sure everyone was working to the best of their ability.
In regards to Scouts etc, as a Rainbow Leader we don't take the girls the minute they turn 5 as we know they are not always ready, especially if they are in Reception and we don't want to overload them. Most of the time we let them play games, make a mess and have fun, tonight they designed beach flags for sandcastle building in 2 weeks time and played some running around games.
In regards to Scouts etc, as a Rainbow Leader we don't take the girls the minute they turn 5 as we know they are not always ready, especially if they are in Reception and we don't want to overload them. Most of the time we let them play games, make a mess and have fun, tonight they designed beach flags for sandcastle building in 2 weeks time and played some running around games.
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When my elder DCs started school in mid90s there were 2 intakes a year - September & January - and the second intake just got a term less in reception class.
In smaller village schools there is often a need for mixed year groups in a class or across classes so perhaps that does make it easier to be flexible in some ways.
There were certainly children with summer birthday's in my DCs' cohorts who were confident high achievers but I guess its hard to tell if they would have been performing even better if they had started school later.
In smaller village schools there is often a need for mixed year groups in a class or across classes so perhaps that does make it easier to be flexible in some ways.
There were certainly children with summer birthday's in my DCs' cohorts who were confident high achievers but I guess its hard to tell if they would have been performing even better if they had started school later.
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erisindevon
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Until recently, our infant school had a January intake, which was very much supported by the teaching staff, and seemed to work well for the younger children. In September we would have 2 small classes, which would be topped up to 30, plus another class of 30 in Jan. The local authority basically forced the school to move to single point entry by saying Yes - the parents could still keep younger children back until Jan should they choose to - but the school would only receive funding for the pupil number recorded in November. No sensible way of winning that one....
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KB wrote:When my elder DCs started school in mid90s there were 2 intakes a year - September & January - and the second intake just got a term less in reception class.
In smaller village schools there is often a need for mixed year groups in a class or across classes so perhaps that does make it easier to be flexible in some ways.
There were certainly children with summer birthday's in my DCs' cohorts who were confident high achievers but I guess its hard to tell if they would have been performing even better if they had started school later.
Ours did this but didn't help as the one class that was just one group was reception!
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LincsMumTo3
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My daughter is currently in year 5, she was born 25th Aug and I'm thankful she's not had too many issues at school in relation to actual learning, she already knew all her phonics, basic numbers and can write when she started nursery. She had a big dip in year 2 due to her teacher and then slowed in years 3-4. She was moved schools half way through year 4 (due to moving house) and her current school have picked up some issues that her previous school have left her with but now got her back on track and achieving above where she should be. Her teacher told me earlier this year she had forgotten she was a summer baby and would keep it in mind in future. Wish I had moved her schools earlier! :/
On the other hand she has a very young mind... The way she acts and talks sometimes can expose her a bit with friends but has dealt with things ok. She goes to bed early, likes her teddies and even some tv programs aimed at younger children. Shes very small for her age too and people assume she's about 7! (Rather than 10 in Aug). I find things like her general knowledge and vocabulary are lacking at times. We've been doing a bit extra at home in these areas.
On the other hand she has a very young mind... The way she acts and talks sometimes can expose her a bit with friends but has dealt with things ok. She goes to bed early, likes her teddies and even some tv programs aimed at younger children. Shes very small for her age too and people assume she's about 7! (Rather than 10 in Aug). I find things like her general knowledge and vocabulary are lacking at times. We've been doing a bit extra at home in these areas.
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I believe that rule was introduced by the Government, not the LA.erisindevon wrote:Until recently, our infant school had a January intake, which was very much supported by the teaching staff, and seemed to work well for the younger children. In September we would have 2 small classes, which would be topped up to 30, plus another class of 30 in Jan. The local authority basically forced the school to move to single point entry by saying Yes - the parents could still keep younger children back until Jan should they choose to - but the school would only receive funding for the pupil number recorded in November. No sensible way of winning that one....
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Latest research (peer reviewed) from The Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry published 4th June 2015
"The youngest children starting school have relatively immature language and behaviour skills and many are not yet ready to meet the academic and social demands of the classroom. At a population level, developing oral language skills and/or ensuring academic targets reflect developmental capacity could substantially reduce the numbers of children requiring specialist clinical services in later years."
full methodology for scrutiny:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 12431/full" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
evidence, evidence and more evidence all else is anecdotal and meaningless
"The youngest children starting school have relatively immature language and behaviour skills and many are not yet ready to meet the academic and social demands of the classroom. At a population level, developing oral language skills and/or ensuring academic targets reflect developmental capacity could substantially reduce the numbers of children requiring specialist clinical services in later years."
full methodology for scrutiny:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 12431/full" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
evidence, evidence and more evidence all else is anecdotal and meaningless
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That's not the kind of evidence I find persuasive.
It's all based on teacher ratings. I wonder if that is objective enough for a piece of research ....... it's a bit too "qualitative" and opinion-based for my liking. My children's foundation stage profile points no way represented them in various areas - that's another assessment where something terribly grey is made to look quantitative by sticking a number on it.
I know someone who is trying to get a year 1 age child into reception for various good reasons this September. More than one headteacher has commented that the child would be better off starting in year 1 than reception because of her height.
It's all based on teacher ratings. I wonder if that is objective enough for a piece of research ....... it's a bit too "qualitative" and opinion-based for my liking. My children's foundation stage profile points no way represented them in various areas - that's another assessment where something terribly grey is made to look quantitative by sticking a number on it.
I know someone who is trying to get a year 1 age child into reception for various good reasons this September. More than one headteacher has commented that the child would be better off starting in year 1 than reception because of her height.
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One of mine started full time the Term he turned 4, one part time the term he turned four (my choice he was still having an afternoon nap). The other two started the beginning of the academic year they turned 5. The June DC part time the April full time.
The two that started part time needed more sleep at that age and it was nothing to do with when in the year they were born. Also going part time mean't the missed nothing as most 'work' was done in the morning. I did have to be quite firm about it and yes I was a home parent but Catseye I opted to be a home parent when we had an income of £6000 p.a so not what you would term as being middleclass/wealthy but yes I am fairly well educated. The fact is classrooms are not best suited for dealing with socially deprived DC and closing the gap.
The two that started part time needed more sleep at that age and it was nothing to do with when in the year they were born. Also going part time mean't the missed nothing as most 'work' was done in the morning. I did have to be quite firm about it and yes I was a home parent but Catseye I opted to be a home parent when we had an income of £6000 p.a so not what you would term as being middleclass/wealthy but yes I am fairly well educated. The fact is classrooms are not best suited for dealing with socially deprived DC and closing the gap.
