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salsa
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Re: Should Britain vote to remain or exit the European Union

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Catseye wrote:Just thought I would share this with you, going it's rounds on social media;

Remainers (left holding the Brexit baby after the Leavers… left) “WTF?”
Leavers “We voted Brexit, now You Remainers need to implement it”
Remainers “But it’s not possible!”
Leavers “The People Have Spoken. Therefore it is possible. You just have to think positively.”
Remainers “And do what exactly?”
Leavers “Come up with a Plan that will leave us all better off outside the EU than in it”
Remainers “But it’s not possible!”
Leavers “Quit with the negative vibes. The People Have Spoken.”
Remainers “But even you don’t know how!”
Leavers “That’s your problem, we’ve done our bit and voted, we’re going to sit here and eat popcorn and watch as you do it.”
Remainers “Shouldn’t you do it?”
Leavers “It’s not up to us to work out the detail, it’s up to you experts.”
Remainers “I thought you’d had enough of experts”
Leavers “Remain experts.”
Remainers “There are no Leave experts”
Leavers “Then you’ll have to do it then. Oh, and by the way, no dragging your feet or complaining about it, because if you do a deal we don’t want, we’ll eat you alive.”
Remainers “But you don’t know what you want!”
Leavers “We want massive economic growth, no migration, free trade with the EU and every other country, on our terms, the revival of British industry, re-open the coal mines, tea and vicars on every village green, some bunting, and maybe restoration of the empire.”
Remainers “You’re delusional.”
Leavers “We’re a delusional majority. DEMOCRACY! So do the thing that isn’t possible, very quickly, and give all Leavers what they want, even though they don’t know what they want, and ignore the 16 million other voters who disagree. They’re tight trouser latte-sipping hipsters who whine all the time, who cares.”


What a nightmare.
Oh, and if we end up worse off it would be the Remainer's fault for being clueless and not having a plan. If somehow something works then the Leavers will take all credit because they voted leave.
Catseye
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Re: Should Britain vote to remain or exit the European Union

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Independent OBR , estimate the cost of Brexit to at least £60 billion

Range- 30 billion to 200 billion.

That's upto £200,000,000,000!!!!!!

Brexit chickens are coming home to roost.
salsa
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Re: Should Britain vote to remain or exit the European Union

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Catseye wrote:Independent OBR , estimate the cost of Brexit to at least £60 billion

Range- 30 billion to 200 billion.

That's upto £200,000,000,000!!!!!!

Brexit chickens are coming home to roost.
New referendum that reads: Give the NHS what we would save if we stop this Brexit madness.
Stroller
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Re: Should Britain vote to remain or exit the European Union

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What? Didn't Wales, Cornwall and similar regions vote for Brexit so they could keep the fictitious surplus invented by people who aren't great at business or maths or honesty instead of benefitting directly from EU-provided funds as they have done for years? Wait. You mean not only have they rejected the European funding but there won't even be a surplus to share locally? Oh dear. Economics is such a mean discipline. Never mind, Westminster can be relied upon to bankroll the regions, can't it?
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Re: Should Britain vote to remain or exit the European Union

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Stroller wrote:What? Didn't Wales, Cornwall and similar regions vote for Brexit so they could keep the fictitious surplus invented by people who aren't great at business or maths or honesty instead of benefitting directly from EU-provided funds as they have done for years? Wait. You mean not only have they rejected the European funding but there won't even be a surplus to share locally? Oh dear. Economics is such a mean discipline. Never mind, Westminster can be relied upon to bankroll the regions, can't it?
Sure they will. Wait, did they promise to? No? Oh, dear. Even if they had, with all this money spent on Brexit, will there be any left for anything else?
JaneEyre
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Re: Should Britain vote to remain or exit the European Union

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It seems that the convinced 'Remainers' are not forgotten by Brussels: :D

Britons could pay to keep EU citizenship after Brexit, top negotiator says
excertp: However, the idea would have to be approved by all EU nations to become part of any exit deal with Britain – and, predictably, has already drawn the fire of some Brexit supporters.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 40556.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11 ... egotiator/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There is also an article in The Times about that.
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Re: Should Britain vote to remain or exit the European Union

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If it is not a joke by the Hof, then it would be good if UK leave EU and Remainers have the choice of EU citizenship on pay as you take basis. If EU gives EU citizenship, not one of the remaining 27 countries, then the idea of US of E would become a reality. Good for Federalists.
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Re: Should Britain vote to remain or exit the European Union

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The full hearing on invoking article 50 begins on Monday and is expected to last 4 days.Here is a link to anyone who may want to watch the case on the live stream from Monday the 5th December before the 11 Supreme Court justices.

https://www.supremecourt.uk/live/court-01.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Please note the footnote on the link.

"This footage is made available for the sole purpose of the fair and accurate reporting of the judicial proceedings of The UK Supreme Court. Although you are welcome to view these proceedings, the re-use, capture, re-editing or redistribution of this footage in any form is not permitted. You should be aware that any such use could attract liability for breach of copyright or defamation and, in some circumstances, could constitute a contempt of court."

It is a case which has such ramifications that the court are making available the live stream.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/a-gu ... -justices/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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SHertsDad
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Re: Should Britain vote to remain or exit the European Union

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I can't see how would a system that would allow British people to pay for European citizenship (a concept that has not even been decided) work.

Or are we talking of another word for a Visa system?

As for the voting for European Parliament, if we have a hard brexit it is meaningless. If we achieve some sort of soft brexit, then it would mean at least some of the British people would get a chance to have a saying on rules applicable to all...
JaneEyre
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Re: Should Britain vote to remain or exit the European Union

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That is a forceful comparaison!

'You're not Henry VIII,' Jeremy Corbyn tells Theresa May
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/yo ... ailsignout" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I am still completley upset with this Brexit issue and I have no idea where the British government is going.... :(
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