SATS - cheating

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Minesatea
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Re: SATS - cheating

Post by Minesatea »

Which conversely means that the secondary schools would look better if the children's KS2 results were low!

What happens with children who do not have KS2 SATS results?
Guest55
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Re: SATS - cheating

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If they have a teacher assessment (ie they were away) then that is used.

If they were in a Private school or abroad they are excluded from the progress analysis and their results are only counted as ' making expected progress' if they get a GCSE grade B (ie unknown level is 'assumed' a level 5). Its a bit complicated ...

Once level 6s work through only GCSE grade A will be counted as 'making expected progress' for those with unknown results.
ginx
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Re: SATS - cheating

Post by ginx »

So if a dc gets level 6, are they expected to get A grade at GCSE five years later?

I am so looking forward to Friday when it is all over.

Back to OP, are these dc really cheating?
mystery
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Re: SATS - cheating

Post by mystery »

Not sure if that is what g55 meant, but surely one would jolly well hope so. It's a much higher proportion get a and a star star at gcse than level 6 at ks2.
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Re: SATS - cheating

Post by ToadMum »

Guest55 wrote:We are getting off topic. However what ever we think the FACT is that Secondary schools are judged on the progress their students make from these KS2 levels.
Ooh - decisions, decisions... Whether to punish your primary school by encouraging your DC not to bother to put any effort into their KS2 SATs, or make life hard for your secondary school by getting them to try as hard as possible (not to mention demanding that they take all available level 6 papers) to give them as difficult a KS3 target as possible to get the child up to?

Back to general area of OP, I guess the size of class would be relevant, but a straw poll of the one offspring available at this time of night - DS1 (yr11) up watching the programme about Richard Feynman with us - produced the answer that from a yr6 class of about 30 he had absolutely no idea whether anyone at all was eligible for or was given any special consideration for SATs. Possibly if anyone was, they were in the other class.
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