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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:40 am 
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A recent tweet from the Elevenplusexams Twitter page http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituar ... -Pike.html stated that the Maths 11+ in 1960 was harder than the current GCSE Maths. Does anyone know where I could find 1960's Maths 11+ papers? My dd would love to try one:)


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:33 am 
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There was a book published - here it is:

The Eleven-Plus Book: Genuine Exam Questions from Yesteryear (Gift) by Martin Stephen

Permalink: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1843172976


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:03 pm 
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Thanks for the link:) Now on order....I love this forum!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:50 pm 
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I have this book and it is really good!Maths, general knowledge,english and comprehensions are all covered in this book. It has short tests so that DC's do not get bogged down . I have not still used it till now but i liked the wordy problems in maths.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:11 pm 
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here is one that is from 1929 and its free!

http://www.bucks11plus.co.uk/11Plus1929.pdf


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:35 pm 
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sargul wrote:
here is one that is from 1929 and its free!

http://www.bucks11plus.co.uk/11Plus1929.pdf


Wow - wonderful!


What is:
£98 15s, 6 3/4d. x59?

->59* 3 farthings is 44 1/4d or 3s 8 1/4d
->59 * 6d = 29/6
->59 * 15s = £44 5/-
->59* £98 = £5782

add it all together £5827 18s 2 1/4d - humph awfully late and Herman is on the port having been at work all day so probably wrong....


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:26 am 
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hermanmunster wrote:
sargul wrote:
here is one that is from 1929 and its free!

http://www.bucks11plus.co.uk/11Plus1929.pdf


Wow - wonderful!


Indeed. For those hankering after a golden age, note how incredibly limited the maths (accurately described as arithmetic) is. In essence, the monetary system and the weights and measures system were so complex that up to 11, the entire purpose of education was getting people able to manipulate numbers with them. Reduce those questions to modern units and a large number of today's 11+ students would score 100% in a great deal less than 75 minutes. The same argument applies, mutatis mutandi, to English: it's really limited. That a child today would struggle to do parts of it (as would many adults) doesn't prove that we are on the end times, just that education in 1929 had very limited objectives.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:32 am 
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indeed - it is an arithmetic paper ... at that time few did mathematics as such. I remember talking to people who were "good at arithmetic" at school around that time but had no clue about algebra or geometry .... the teaching was aiming for people to work out invoices and accounts etc in the pre decimal pre calculator era.

My headmaster rather cluelessly came into our classroom in 1969 and announced that he was very sorry that they were getting rid of the £sd and cwts/stones/lb/oz as it made british children cleverer than their european fellows (remember most people had never been abroad at that point and very few foreigners in england). Anyway away it all went and mathematics got a lot more interesting at senior school.

Odd though that when I ask anyone of any age how much something weighs they tell me in stones pounds ounces and their height in feet and inches... have to recalculate (which none can seem to do) to get it into metric and calculate the BMI .
Why after all these years can't they convert it???


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