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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:06 pm 

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What would be the extra percentage marks students would get for their early appearance who were born in Aug/Sep. Is there any band in this.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:10 pm 

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The child takes the test when they are in year 6 - some areas age adjust the scores to compare children of the same age fairly - but that would only be for the august child, it is rare that children born in the September who are wanting to take the test early are allowed to do so

ETA: here is an article about standardisation http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/advice ... xplanation

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:18 am 

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An example of a standardisistion table cans be seen here. This particular one is for is KS2 Maths SATS, not 11+, but it does include approximately the right age range for 11+ so you can get an idea of the difference in scores required at different ages.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:47 pm 

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Hi goldenstar

Since hermanmunster and Okanagan have pointed you in the right direction in respect of 'Standardised Scores', I am now concentrated on sharing with you about my experience regarding younger candidate taking 11+ early.

hermanmunster was right in stressing that, 'it is rare that children born in the September who are wanting to take the test early are allowed to do so.' In fact, only 5 younger candidates in Devon applied to take 11+ early for the last 3 years (1 in Entry 2011, 2 in Entry 2012, 2 in Entry 2013)

Having stated the above, my younger boy, born in late Dec, was eventually permitted to sit the 11+ early even though he was almost 4 months 'too young' for 11+ (Qualifying age range : 1 Sept - 31 Aug), and permitted to an early transfer to SECONDARY education. But the process had been less than straight-forward.

The Admissions Manager (AM) of Devon made it very clear from the beginning, 'it's not only about taking 11+ early but about an EARLY transfer from primary to SECONDARY education'. The AM initially stated that either a primary headteacher's supporting letter or an educational psychologist's assessment report was sufficient.

But, a few months later, after me advising AM that headteachers from both primary & grammar school supported my boy to take 11+ early & early transfer to SECONDARY education, AM then suddenly insisted me submitting an educational psychologist's assessment report.

I, however, took the following actions in response to AM's sudden change of request,

- submitted AM a very strong supporting report from primary headteacher only (i.e. no educational psychologist's assessment report);

- reminded AM of Devon's Protocol for Early Transfer to Secondary Education, stating that an educational psychologist's report MAY be required; (i.e. NOT mandatory);

- reminded AM that I had already submitted more than enough supporting written evidences regarding my boy's Maturity;

- reminded AM of other councils' 'good practice' ; (e.g. require supporting letter from primary headteacher only, parents to sign a declaration, agreeing to their child taking 11+ once only)

- lodged a formal complaint to the CEO Devon (Cc Council Leader).

AM replied very shortly, concluding an educational psychologist's assessment report would not be required, because the primary headteacher's report was very detailed and had successfully convinced her that taking 11+ early & an early transfer to SECONDARY education would be in my boy's best interest.

So, 'yes, a younger child can take 11+ early' as long as,

- your child meets the requirements of both the grammar school AND the council;
- your primary headteacher gives your child a strong supporting letter; and
- your child has been consistently demonstrated that they are at a high level, Academically, Socially, Mentally.

(And yes, my boy passed the 11+ and has been offered a place at the grammar school - he is 'Category A')

Good Luck.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:56 pm 

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Brilliant. AM sounds annoying.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:35 pm 

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Talking August / Sept I wasn't sure if you meant a child who was outside of the standard age range.
Having been through that in a different area, the requirements of different education authorities are different. We live in one LEA and were applying for a neighbouring LEA and it was the admitting authority that we had to satisfy. Our local LEA do not agree and so would not approve DS to have an early transfer to one of their secondary schools.

We had to get the Ed Psych assessment, but have the option to retake next year if DS doesn't get a place. He passed the test, but we are still waiting to see if the distance criteria works out.

In terms of the age adjustments, DS had one full year added to his age - so in effect was treated as one of the oldest taking the test.

I am not sure where you are, but we are in Lincolnshire. If you have any specific questions please feel free to send me a message.

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