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 Post subject: How much tutoring ?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:14 pm 
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I was wondering if anyone could advice on how much tutoring is needed for the 11+ entrance test?

My daughter has 1 year to go before she sits her exam (VR & NVR). How much did you do to pass the 11+ test, I want to be realistic to reach a positive result but without putting to much pressure on my daughter.

Thank you. :D


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 Post subject: Re: How much tutoring ?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:22 pm 
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We can't answer this until you tell us what school you are applying for and approx. how many apply for the places. If there are 1000 going for 100 places then you will need to spend a lot more time preparing. If there are 400 for 200 places then there will less work involved. Is your exam standard or MC? DG


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 Post subject: Re: How much tutoring ?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:36 pm 
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Hello DG!

Newstead Woods Sept 2014 test.

It offers 160 places in Year 7 and is heavily over-subscribed with around 785 applications in 2011.

Unsure what MC / standard means (sorry).


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 Post subject: Re: How much tutoring ?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:24 pm 
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Standard means you write the answers on the paper. MC, Multiple Choice means you are given four or five boxes with the answers and you tick the box you think is the correct answer. MC is easier as the answer is actually there, you just have to work out the one that is right. From the figures you quote you have a lot of competition so I would recommend start some daily practice now. IPS do some great ten minute VR test papers that the forum shop sells. Just a few minutes each day will help steady progress. Then start adding some more time around Xmas. DG


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 Post subject: Re: How much tutoring ?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:47 pm 
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Also depends what the primary school is doing. Some private schools do a lot of work in school, and most state schools do none. I would say most children do a lot of work now to get into a grammar school. Its not fair but its the way it is.

A huge amount go to a private tutor, and those who don't are probably being tutored at home. My daughter went to a state school and they did nothing to help them.

I sent her to a private tutor once a week for an hour and a half. She then did 3 papers a week as well as around an hour home work a week from the tutor. She did that for a year before the test. Then before the test she did 3 mocks, 1 a week till the exam. That was really tough!!
She also had her school home work to do on top of that. Also about 2 months before the test I went through all the papers she had done (its a good idea to keep them all) and looked to see if there were any patterns in the areas she was getting wrong. I then worked on those key area, I found that was really useful, and think that made a big difference to her getting in.

For some reason people can be quite cagey when you ask how much their children are working, perhaps every one is seen as competition!

I would say she did less work than quite a lot of children I know. My sister's girls went to a private school and they did lots of papers in school,s o she didn't need to do that at home. She tutored them herself and went over questions etc, I think she did about half an hour a day, for about 2 years!

It is a lot of work for you and your child and very expensive too. Of course when they get in its worth it, but its a really hard flog!


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 Post subject: Re: How much tutoring ?
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 Post subject: Re: How much tutoring ?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:31 pm 
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DAO has hit the nail on the head regarding numbers etc.

DD1 and DD2 went to a state school with some intermittent "patchy" teaching. Although DD2 had been dipping in and out of Bond book from the age of 5, we only really started to DIY tutor properly from late May of YR 5. It wasn't an expensive exercise for us - only the cost of the books. So she really only had about 3.5 months of regular tests and tutoring. It depends on your child and many other factors, as to how far in advance of the test and how much you and they do.

We tailored our 11+ plan according to what we know about DD2 as a person and her level of self-motivation and commitment. On 1st March we got the wonderful news that she'd won a place at a superselective but our approach wouldn't work for everyone. That's why this site is so amazing - you can pick and choose from a wide array of experiences, based on your area's or school's exam format :D

One of our sport trainers, who is a former world champion and a "grafter", always says "talent will only get you so far..." and he's right because hard work has to go hand-in-hand with talent, in order to make it happen and get those results.


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 Post subject: Re: How much tutoring ?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:20 pm 
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Our school does not use the word talented or able, only hard work is celebrated. DG


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 Post subject: Re: How much tutoring ?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:20 pm 
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I think that's an interesting and valid value!


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 Post subject: Re: How much tutoring ?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:04 pm 
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Daogroupie wrote:
Our school does not use the word talented or able, only hard work is celebrated. DG

Blimey DAO - you've set my rusty vocab-bank a challenge on this hot Bank Holiday :D


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