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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:43 am 
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Just out of complete curiosity, which schools are the hardest to get into? Which ones are the most competitve etc? I'm talking about the whole country rather than just one area.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:48 am 
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Hi Itzie

Are you talking about state schools or private?

I'm no expert, but around my way (west kent) Judd for boys and TOGS for girls are the most super selective STATE schools and have no catchment.

Maybe someone else will help you for other parts of the country or the private sector.

Wardie


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:10 pm 
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My answer... "The one you want to get into."

Seriously, I think there are actually now quite a few schools where the number of applications is around 1000 and the number of places are around 100-200.

Only my 2p

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I'm with sunlamp on this one - no GS is easy. each area has its own challenges not just qualifying but getting the school you want is never easy.

Out of interest why do you ask?


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This article from last November

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... runch.html

may prove interesting

Usually each local authority will have figures for their own schools, probably in the admissions booklet


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Hi

To answer this question you need to consider the complexity of the tests or the pass mark for the tests.

The most difficult state grammar schools to attain a place should be those that provide the most difficult tests i.e. Verbal Reasoning, Non-Verbal Reasoning, English and Mathematics were a student needs to perform well across all four subjects.

However, Bucks grammar schools are difficult because the format of their tests is so easy that any decent private tutor should be able to successfully coach children for the tests. This makes the pass mark for Bucks grammar schools unusually high at around 86% or above.

You also need to consider whether the student is taking the tests in-area when there is automatic acceptance on attaining a pass mark, or whether the student is out-of-area when other factors are applied. Some out-of-area students attain higher scores than in-area pupils and are not offered places.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:00 pm 
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Also in Bucks you need to live near the school you want if it is popular - qualifying is not enough.


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Mike wrote:
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However, Bucks grammar schools are difficult because the format of their tests is so easy that any decent private tutor should be able to successfully coach children for the tests. This makes the pass mark for Bucks grammar schools unusually high at around 86% or above.

Regards Mike


However....

I regard myself as quite a good/experienced tutor, but I cannot [and will not] flog a dead horse. Just an average child could NOT be coached to pass the test. They can be taught by rote for the codes and maths but they would be unable to cope with the spelling/vocab and certainly would have trouble with timings.

Patricia :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:31 pm 
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Well as others have said, it usually depends on so many different things....

"Hardest to get into" suggests the most over-subscribed. In my area (SW Herts) Parmiter's has about 1200 applications for 185 places. BUT - only 45 of these are awarded on academic grounds; the rest are a mixture of siblings / proximity /music etc. So I'm guessing that around 1000 childen are hoping to be one of the 45.

That's pretty tough - but only in line with the other partially selective schools round here. I'm sure it's equally as tough elsewhere.


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