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MSD
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Re: Raw scores

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mumsdarling2 wrote:
salsa wrote:
vinitasurya wrote:Yes I received the raw scores too
DS was 10 years 11 months at time of test

VR 84/110 (247)
NVR 42/52 (234)
Maths 39/40 (257)

I really wonder how they standardise!
This is very odd. In Maths your child got one wrong and dropped how many points?
Does anybody know the maximum? It used to be 280. Is it 260, now?

Edit: I just spotted someone with 271, so maybe it is still 280. So, how can you drop 23 points for having one Maths question wrong?
Perhaps age came into picture here.
Yup, probably down to lot of children scoring 39/40 and 40/40, and this child being one of the oldest, hence, penalised on age standardisaton.
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Re: Raw scores

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Mich895 wrote:On another post someone has mentioned that 5,499 children sat the test. There were two testing dates 15th and 16th September. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks mich.
looks like bexley has thrown a spanner in the works for us brummies :(
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Re: Raw scores

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Bob1892 wrote:
Mich895 wrote:On another post someone has mentioned that 5,499 children sat the test. There were two testing dates 15th and 16th September. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks mich.
looks like bexley has thrown a spanner in the works for us brummies :(
What do you mean?
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Re: Raw scores

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MSD wrote: Yup, probably down to lot of children scoring 39/40 and 40/40, and this child being one of the oldest, hence, penalised on age standardisaton.
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I can't believe that. It would only standardise in that way if say most of the August DC got a much lower scores in maths. As the CEM is based on curriculum maths that makes it even more unlikely.
MSD
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Re: Raw scores

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It is quite odd for the child to only lose 1 mark and score 257 SD. Not sure how they have standardised, but only reason I can think of is a lot of 100% scores and him being in the oldest month group.
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MSD wrote:It is quite odd for the child to only lose 1 mark and score 257 SD. Not sure how they have standardised, but only reason I can think of is a lot of 100% scores and him being in the oldest month group.
Exactly what I'm thinking!
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Re: Raw scores

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salsa wrote:
Bob1892 wrote:
Mich895 wrote:On another post someone has mentioned that 5,499 children sat the test. There were two testing dates 15th and 16th September. Hope this is helpful.
Thanks mich.
looks like bexley has thrown a spanner in the works for us brummies :(
What do you mean?
Bexley cohort number very similar to brum. If similar complexity in paper then maths average is very high compared to previous years with cem approx 67% cf with 45% in previous years on average.
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Re: Raw scores

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Bob1892 wrote:
MSD wrote:It is quite odd for the child to only lose 1 mark and score 257 SD. Not sure how they have standardised, but only reason I can think of is a lot of 100% scores and him being in the oldest month group.
Exactly what I'm thinking!

Yes but if there were lots of 100% scores then there is no anomaly between age groups so why do the older DC lose marks. You can't just give younger DC an extra 23 marks just because they are younger? If that were the case then you could end up with no September DC in a year group.
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Re: Raw scores

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The only thing I can think of is some sort of ceiling effect where the very high scores have much lower sd scores overall to prevent a skew in the total sd score?
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Re: Raw scores

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Let's remember that last year a lot of children failed the Maths part of the test. This meant that more girls than boys passed. I guess Durham may have made the Maths part too easy this year and that is why you need full marks to get 280 in Maths.
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