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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:26 am 
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DD2 is to sit Medway 11+ this September. She has been going to a group tutor an hour a week for year 4, and we are continuing to send her for year 5. Some friends have a private tutor for their DD who they recommended, and we thought DD2 would benefit from one-to-one for some help with English, so asked them to speak to the tutor about taking on our DD. The feedback today is that the tutor refuses to teach our DD as it would be a conflict of interest between her & the other tutor :( I was upset at first, but now REALLY angry that she has just dismissed us without even speaking to us personally. Our friends didn't know we wanted English only, so obv she didn't, yet she has dismissed us out of hand. To add insult to injury she 'dissed' our tutor, intimating that on occasions in the past where she had tutored kids who went there, our tutor was teaching them incorrectly :( So now I feel doubly bad.

I dunno whether having 2 'tutors' is too much now anyway ...if I can try to bolster the English by lots of reading? If she is OK at maths and VR she might get through anyway :(

I know I need to get a grip but I am like a bear with a sore head this morning and actually CRIED :-* with frustration I think :(


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:38 am 
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my personal opinion is 2 is too many! She has school work as well and is still only young.

Play lots of word games like scrabble and boggle, think of exciting adjectives etc and play games like the admirable aardvark ambled to Athens, the brilliant baboon bicycled to Bombay etc.., read lots ( including non-fiction, newspapers etc), go to the library , listen to audio books...make it fun!

Just think of the books you buy with the money saved.

As for the comment about your present tutor teaching incorrectly, it may be worth checking that she/he is covering the correct subjects and format for Medway


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:40 am 
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I think 2 Tutors for the same subject can be counter productive. One teaching them one technique and another a diff technique as you can judge by the other Tutor's response. What did you do with DD1 Rubby? You have a proven strategy already unless you feel they are vastly diff in their capabilities. I dont think English can be bolstered by reading alone, it may help with spellings etc but I am not sure if reading is significantly helpful. If DD2 is struggling with English why dont you get a specialist English tutor to just help her in that area while she continues with the group for the rest?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:48 am 
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I think they are vastly different in ability Sherry - tbh I dunno if DD2 is GS material, but the alternative is just awful, and I have to give it our best shot :( Not just cos the comp is rubbish, but because I don't want DD2 feeling inferior to DD1...

What I was looking for was the bolstering of her English, but the tutor never gave me a chance :-[ I didn't want her to actually learn 'an 11+ passing technique' I wanted her English improved!


Thanks yoyo123....the schoolwork is not demanding enough unfortunately which is one problem in itself...the word games are a great idea.

The tutor she is with has historically had good results but I fear they may be dropping off - not sure she is keeping up with the times...

*sigh*

Thanks you guys
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:23 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:29 pm 
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Thanks, Belinda...I have just found the email I sent to my friend and I only asked for the tutor's nimber - now all this has been 'done and dusted' behind my back :(

I would like to speak to the tutor personally but don't want to make an (even worse) issue with my friend, and don't want to be rejected again either by the tutor :(

The existing tutor is well on top of the formats required for English, just DD's vocb and spelling is poor. I will scroll thru the Medway site and see what else I can glean..

Am feeling marginally better now...got mocks at Easter and we can see where we REALLY are, still time after that I guess...


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:57 pm 
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I just wonder if you have got stuck in a bit of "history" between the 2 tutors - could have been that there have been problems over "poaching" perceived or real.... they may have had to come to some agreement about not taking each others pupils....
.... also beware of 3rd hand comments - far better to bite the bullet and phone them yourself


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:52 pm 
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Ruby i agree with Belinda in that check your dd knows the fundamentals of how to compose a report - set out a letter - write a diary entry. Any can come up in the Medway test. I would also check if the format has changed at all - last year didnt they get an actual choice of what format to write in - as long as it was about the same issue?

DD2 is great at creative writing(dreadful speller though) so all i did with her was check she was familiar with all the different writing methods. dd1 not a good creative writer. With her we developed a couple of characters she could put into any story or diary entry, or even newpaper report. She developed these characters personalites, drew pics of them and we talked about the relaionship they had with each other. When doing any writing she began to include them until they were like friends to her. This gave her more confidence as she knew with certain questions she had something to start with.

If you have the group tutor i think you have then i know she used to cover creative writing thouroughly. Also check with them if any of the staff at the group session do on-to-one, to top up the pupils knowledge.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:47 pm 
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Oh yes I read "conflict of interest" as being some agreement or dispute between the two tutors about taking on one another's pupils. This is completely outside your control, but it's still worth phoning the tutor direct if you are interested in engaging them as there might be some kind of misunderstanding. You sound a bit upset with your "friend" too.

Anyhow, it's not the correct use of the term "conflict of interest" so I would hesitate to use them for English tuition!! There must be some other English tutors in your area, or do you live out in the sticks like I do here with, so far as I can tell, very few tutors locally?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:17 pm 
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If your friend has given you the number of the tutor then I would go ahead and contact her. If she hasn't, then get the number from someone else and contact the tutor. Who knows what misunderstandings may have arisen between your friend and the tutor about your requirements if neither of them had the full facts. The tutor may have thought it odd that you didn't contact her directly if you were that interested.

You could also try and get some recommendations for other tutors. When I was looking for a tutor for my son I found that some of the people in DS' year group became very cagey about who they were using, perhaps because our DCs would be in direct competition for the few selective school places in this area. I got recommendations and telephone numbers from the parents of children in the year above DS. They had been with their tutor for a while and were happy to recommend her.


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