QE A level cull
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Re: QE A Level Voluntary Cull
Hello bullread and suzyb!
Sorry to sound like a Jeremiah, but QE Boys' only have around 140 in their Year 12 each year. So, however they do it, about 40 out of the 180 in Year 11 will be excluded, come what may.
And I expect they do not have the classrooms or the staff to fit in any more even if they decided to keep all 180.
Incidentally, a deafening silence from so many QE parents on this forum, all of a sudden .....
Sorry to sound like a Jeremiah, but QE Boys' only have around 140 in their Year 12 each year. So, however they do it, about 40 out of the 180 in Year 11 will be excluded, come what may.
And I expect they do not have the classrooms or the staff to fit in any more even if they decided to keep all 180.
Incidentally, a deafening silence from so many QE parents on this forum, all of a sudden .....
Re: QE A Level Voluntary Cull
Hi JBJean.Brodie wrote:Hi Etienne!
How about the Young Persons' Learning Agency? ... Is this not, in general, the first port of call regarding an Academy?
The YPLA no longer exists. It's been superseded by the EFA.
The EFA, like its predecessor body, deals with complaints about academy appeals.
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Re: QE A Level Voluntary Cull
Do the numbers go down because some children leave QE to pursue subjects of their interest or cull is always on the agenda?Jean.Brodie wrote: Sorry to sound like a Jeremiah, but QE Boys' only have around 140 in their Year 12 each year. So, however they do it, about 40 out of the 180 in Year 11 will be excluded, come what may.
And I expect they do not have the classrooms or the staff to fit in any more even if they decided to keep all 180.
I feel very sorry for the children if the cull is pre-planned and the QE is not open about it.
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Re: QE A Level Voluntary Cull
This 'engineered' cull happened to my son about 5 years ago. Owing to a poor internal test in year 10, he was not allowed to do A-level maths. Despite getting a tutor in and his results dramatically improving, they were adamant in sticking with their decision. Such intransigence and arrogance is breathtaking, as at such an early stage they are effectively pre-determining and limiting the boys' uni choices. My son knew early on that he wanted to do Economics, which requires maths , and now further maths. They are also promoting a negative cycle of expectations as why should a boy try harder, if the decision is already cast in stone. He achieved an A* in maths, but we had to put in motion a move to another school.
He went to an indie on a substantial scholarship with free access to his A-level choices and flourished there, realising how QE's oppressive regime in his GCSE years had undermined his confidence.
It always amazes me that in a school, like QE, so few boys do further maths, which must be v constraining for those boys wanting to read physics, Economics, etc at the top unis.
Incidentally he's in a top uni and on line to get a first. Now the worry is finding a job in a very tough market.
He went to an indie on a substantial scholarship with free access to his A-level choices and flourished there, realising how QE's oppressive regime in his GCSE years had undermined his confidence.
It always amazes me that in a school, like QE, so few boys do further maths, which must be v constraining for those boys wanting to read physics, Economics, etc at the top unis.
Incidentally he's in a top uni and on line to get a first. Now the worry is finding a job in a very tough market.
Re: QE A Level Voluntary Cull
I specifically asked QE about the rumoured cull and they told me they use to do it but do not any more. How I wish I had that in writing instead of taking them at face value. Given that I assumed they had capacity to take all 180 boys into the sixth form.Jean.Brodie wrote:Hello bullread and suzyb!
Sorry to sound like a Jeremiah, but QE Boys' only have around 140 in their Year 12 each year. So, however they do it, about 40 out of the 180 in Year 11 will be excluded, come what may.
And I expect they do not have the classrooms or the staff to fit in any more even if they decided to keep all 180.
This is utter deception. Lets face it it is not about capacity but culling to reduce the risk to slip in the league tables.
The boys leave voluntarily because QE gives them no practical choice. QE does not offer them subjects they want to pursue and are more than capable of pursuing in any other school in the entire country.
Of course I can understand any school not allowing a student to take an A-Level subject that they are poor in at GCSE level. But I am sure all reasonble persons would not be expecting A* to be classified as poor, rather the opposite.
There does not seem to be any realistic recourse open to take QE to an independent judge/adjudicator to achieve anything.
Re: QE A Level Voluntary Cull
bullred wrote:I specifically asked QE about the rumoured cull and they told me they use to do it but do not any more. How I wish I had that in writing instead of taking them at face value. Given that I assumed they had capacity to take all 180 boys into the sixth form.Jean.Brodie wrote:Hello bullread and suzyb!
Sorry to sound like a Jeremiah, but QE Boys' only have around 140 in their Year 12 each year. So, however they do it, about 40 out of the 180 in Year 11 will be excluded, come what may.
And I expect they do not have the classrooms or the staff to fit in any more even if they decided to keep all 180.
This is utter deception. Lets face it it is not about capacity but culling to reduce the risk to slip in the league tables.
The boys leave voluntarily because QE gives them no practical choice. QE does not offer them subjects they want to pursue and are more than capable of pursuing in any other school in the entire country.
Of course I can understand any school not allowing a student to take an A-Level subject that they are poor in at GCSE level. But I am sure all reasonble persons would not be expecting A* to be classified as poor, rather the opposite.
There does not seem to be any realistic recourse open to take QE to an independent judge/adjudicator to achieve anything.
I remember the old headmaster on at least two seperate occaisions saying at parents meetings that the school had the capacity to keep any boy that wanted to stay in 6th form and they could house 180 if needed. Some do leave through choice and that happens in all school and is to be expected. However, as bullred has pointed out many of those that leave will do so because they have been pushed out. Definitely not something for any educational establishment to be proud of.
Re: QE A Level Voluntary Cull
Lady Byron, thank you for sharing your experience.
I am glad your son succeeded.
Shows QE internal tests may not be as predicative as they seem to think they are.
Suzyb - do you think it is worth more than one of us writing to the head, or someone else, to say that we were told specifically culling was not happening any more at QE?
I am glad your son succeeded.
Shows QE internal tests may not be as predicative as they seem to think they are.
Suzyb - do you think it is worth more than one of us writing to the head, or someone else, to say that we were told specifically culling was not happening any more at QE?
Re: QE A Level Voluntary Cull
You're not the only one who got that impression:suzyb wrote:I remember the old headmaster on at least two seperate occaisions saying at parents meetings that the school had the capacity to keep any boy that wanted to stay in 6th form and they could house 180 if needed. Some do leave through choice and that happens in all school and is to be expected. However, as bullred has pointed out many of those that leave will do so because they have been pushed out. Definitely not something for any educational establishment to be proud of.
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I suppose that literally it is true -- anyone can stay, provided they're happy switching to Politics, Economics and Business, Sociology, Design, PE or Accounting.
Re: QE A Level Voluntary Cull
Funnily enough we have been offered those subjects!!WP wrote:You're not the only one who got that impression:suzyb wrote:I remember the old headmaster on at least two seperate occaisions saying at parents meetings that the school had the capacity to keep any boy that wanted to stay in 6th form and they could house 180 if needed. Some do leave through choice and that happens in all school and is to be expected. However, as bullred has pointed out many of those that leave will do so because they have been pushed out. Definitely not something for any educational establishment to be proud of.
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I suppose that literally it is true -- anyone can stay, provided they're happy switching to Politics, Economics and Business, Sociology, Design, PE or Accounting.
Can't see that's in breech of the admissions code either which is depressing.
Re: QE A Level Voluntary Cull
Bullred. I will send you a pmbullred wrote:Lady Byron, thank you for sharing your experience.
I am glad your son succeeded.
Shows QE internal tests may not be as predicative as they seem to think they are.
Suzyb - do you think it is worth more than one of us writing to the head, or someone else, to say that we were told specifically culling was not happening any more at QE?