Am I paranoid?

Discussion of the 11 Plus

Moderators: Section Moderators, Forum Moderators

mattsurf
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:44 am

Am I paranoid?

Post by mattsurf »

Recently I heard about children in China, using cameras in their glasses, transmitting images of the papers to students outside who were providing answers via tiny ear-pieces.

Given the lengths that parents are prepared to go to with tutoring, who is to say that some are not averse to a little bit of cheating?

This got me onto thinking - what is to stop a child filling in a date of birth so that they will be standardised against the youngest children in the group

Are NFER test the same accross the country - the 11+ is sat at different times depending on where you are

What controls do the Schools employ to prevent cheating?

Call me paranoid (I would never consider cheating), however, the stakes are high and competition is fierce - small differences make a huge difference. One post today commented that the difference between 19th and 110th place was just 5 marks
mitasol
Posts: 2756
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:59 am

Post by mitasol »

I'm not sure. :?

I had to present birth certificates to the primary school when each of my children started but I didn't have to provide any proof when DS sat the GS test.
mad?
Posts: 5621
Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 6:27 pm
Location: london

Post by mad? »

we had to provide a copy of the birth certificate with the CAF - so the evidence would have been there...
mad?
mattsurf
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:44 am

Post by mattsurf »

Just seen a BBC article about parents sending elder siblings to complete the test. I am paranoid.

We were not asked to provide any evidence with CAF. I seriously doubt that the examining boards have sufficient IT to cross reference a child with DOB

I guess if there was widespread cheating then the distribution of childrens' birth dates would be skewed
BB248
Posts: 162
Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:51 am
Location: Birmingham

Post by BB248 »

Mattsurf

In Birmingham I think that cross referencing does go on - the preference form comes to each child preprinted (not the prefs, obviously, but the child's name, primary school, address etc). Also each child has to supply a recent photo with GS applications, i guess, to help eliminate the practices you describe.

BB248
mad?
Posts: 5621
Joined: Thu May 01, 2008 6:27 pm
Location: london

Post by mad? »

does your highschool booklet thingy specify requiring hte birth certificate anywhere? Ours asks for it with the CAF ideally but says on acceptance of a place unless a valid birth certificate is provided then the place will be withdrawn...not relevant really if it was not that child who sat the test in the first place....
We also had to provide a passport size photo of the child with the supplementary form...
mad?
essex-mum18
Posts: 218
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:09 am

Post by essex-mum18 »

It reminds me the drama 'May contain Nuts'. A mum to sit the entrance exam for her DD in an indie school. It is just so funny :lol: :lol: but again to show the desperation of a parent.
mitasol
Posts: 2756
Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:59 am

Post by mitasol »

essex-mum18 wrote:It reminds me the drama 'May contain Nuts'. A mum to sit the entrance exam for her DD in an indie school. It is just so funny :lol: :lol: but again to show the desperation of a parent.
How young do you look mattsurf? :wink:
essex-mum18
Posts: 218
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:09 am

Post by essex-mum18 »

mitasol wrote:
essex-mum18 wrote:It reminds me the drama 'May contain Nuts'. A mum to sit the entrance exam for her DD in an indie school. It is just so funny :lol: :lol: but again to show the desperation of a parent.
How young do you look mattsurf? :wink:
I am not that old though :? , just watched the drama only couple of months ago. :wink:
mattsurf
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:44 am

Post by mattsurf »

I could always claim a particularly difficult paper round lead to server premature ageing
Post Reply
11 Plus Platform - Online Practice Makes Perfect - Try Now