can anyone advise on the relative difficulties of vr papers

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chelmsford dad
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can anyone advise on the relative difficulties of vr papers

Post by chelmsford dad »

my son has done 3 tests in last week and scored:

92% gl paper 11a
78% susan daughtrey p3
96% tutors p9

are the susan daughtrey ones harder? and which is most similar to the real thing (we are in essex as i appreciate that may vary)
patricia
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Post by patricia »

Dear Chelmsfor Dad

Yes there is a difficulty order:

AFN reasonably easy

The Tutors [12 full tests] middle range, starting off quite easy]

Shop bought Nfer/GL assesment , only use 15 of the 21 types and are a tad easier than the real tests.

Susan Daughtrey [packs of 4 tests] about the same difficulty as the real tests.

Walsh quite hard, I use these a section at a time for practice, not as a full test.

Patricia
chelmsford dad
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thank you

Post by chelmsford dad »

i think that is pretty much backed up by the scores :)
Sally Herts
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Post by Sally Herts »

Do you know where Athey fit in? I'm getting a bit confused :D

Thank you
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Post by patricia »

Dear Sally Herts

Athey are not Nfer/GL assessment related, therefore do not figure in the table difficulty.

Which school are you applying for?

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Post by Sally Herts »

Thank you for your reply.

DAO in Herts - they sell the parents Athey papers, but I believe the actual test is different.

I've just been doing some Bond papers with my DS to practise some other papers, but I think I'm just getting confused now!
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Post by patricia »

Dear Sally Herts

The Dame Alice Owen website, offers Athey as practice, but goes on to say:

This standardisation is based on extensive testing undertaken by the provider.

Athey, do not get involved with standardistion, but Nfer do, therefore it looks as though the test provider is probably Nfer/GL assesment. Are you able to ring the school to ask who publishes the test?

http://www.damealiceowens.herts.sch.uk/ ... _exam.html

Patricia
Sally Herts
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Post by Sally Herts »

Patricia, thank you. It all makes sense now! (I'm such a novice.)

I did try to ring last week, but ended up in some circular phone loop! I think they discourage phone calls. I'll maybe email instead.

There's such a veil of secrecy, though. I'm so grateful for this website, as if you don't have a tutor, there's almost no chance of unraveling it all. :shock:
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Post by ealingmum »

Patricia where does IPS VR ten tests in a pack come in your difficulty league table?
fm

Post by fm »

Harder than AFN I would say but possibly easier than Susan Daughtrey and GL. Good practice, nonetheless.
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