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Sunday Times Article - State and Independant Schools review

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A colleague told me that KECHB has come top of all independent and state schools in the west midlands region according to an article in the Sunday Times.

How have the newspaper come to this conclusion? Has anyone seen the article?

KES came third with KECHG 7th.
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Can see the online version of the article here: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/new ... 436175.ece

Doesn't really say a great deal - bigs up the KE Consortium in general and has some quotes from KECHB headmaster Martin Garrod.

The ranking appears to be simply based on A Level & GCSE score - nothing else. That's a shame as surely there's more to a school than simple exam performance? The top of the table looks like this ....

THE TOP STATE AND INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS IN THE MIDLANDS
Col1 MIDLANDS RANK
Col2 NATIONAL RANK
Col3 A-LEVEL (% A*-B)
Col4 GCSE (% A*/A)

1 50= King Edward VI Camp Hill School for Boys, Birmingham 93.6 82.0
2 55 Concord College, Shrewsbury 94.8 77.5
3 57= King Edward's School, Birmingham 88.3 89.4
4 76 Loughborough High School 90.6 77.0
5 85 King's High School, Warwick 87.6 78.7
6 89 King Edward VI Handsworth School, Birmingham 86.8 78.4
7 90 King Edward VI Camp Hill School for Girls, Birmingham 86.1 79.4
8= 92= Nottingham Girls’ High School GDST 88.9 73.4
8= 92= King Edward VI High School for Girls, Birmingham 81.7 87.8
10 100 Nottingham High School 88.6 71.5
11 116 King Edward VI School, Stratford-upon-Avon 81.7 80.5
12 123= Warwick School 83.9 75.2
13 130 Stratford-upon-Avon Grammar School for Girls 82.0 78.0
14 139 Solihull School 82.4 75.2
15 140 Leicester Grammar School 86.1 67.7
16 144 Wolverhampton Girls' High School 78.8 81.3
17 157 The King's School, Worcester 83.2 69.6
18 166= Saint Martin's, Solihull 89.5 55.4
19 178 Sutton Coldfield Grammar School for Girls 82.2 68.4
20 180= Bromsgrove School 88.4 55.7
21 184 Oakham School 84.9 61.6
22 185 Bishop Vesey's Grammar School, Sutton Coldfield 82.3 66.7
23 186 Shrewsbury School 83.0 65.0
24 189 Rugby School 75.7 79.0
25 190= Newport Girls' High School 76.3 77.4
26 194= Moreton Hall, Oswestry 82.1 64.5
27 210 Repton School, Derby 79.4 66.8
28 219 Malvern St James, Great Malvern 82.8 59.2
29 224 Shrewsbury High School GDST 82.1 60.0
30 228 Leicester High School for Girls 75.2 72.5
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solihulldad wrote:Can see the online version of the article here: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/new ... 436175.ece

Doesn't really say a great deal - bigs up the KE Consortium in general and has some quotes from KECHB headmaster Martin Garrod.

The ranking appears to be simply based on A Level & GCSE score - nothing else. That's a shame as surely there's more to a school than simple exam performance? The top of the table looks like this ....

THE TOP STATE AND INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS IN THE MIDLANDS
Col1 MIDLANDS RANK
Col2 NATIONAL RANK
Col3 A-LEVEL (% A*-B)
Col4 GCSE (% A*/A)

1 50= King Edward VI Camp Hill School for Boys, Birmingham 93.6 82.0
2 55 Concord College, Shrewsbury 94.8 77.5
3 57= King Edward's School, Birmingham 88.3 89.4
4 76 Loughborough High School 90.6 77.0
5 85 King's High School, Warwick 87.6 78.7
6 89 King Edward VI Handsworth School, Birmingham 86.8 78.4
7 90 King Edward VI Camp Hill School for Girls, Birmingham 86.1 79.4
8= 92= Nottingham Girls’ High School GDST 88.9 73.4
8= 92= King Edward VI High School for Girls, Birmingham 81.7 87.8
Having been through the process more than once, completely agree that there's more to a school than exam performance. Doesn't mean it's the best for your child, but we've had this discussion so many times with so many threads, each time a new table comes out.

There's no indication of "value added", and given that some schools are considered to have an intake of "the best" while others have a mixture of "the best" and more average students, I would have thought the difference would be more marked and not as close as it is.

There are always so many ways of presenting results. If the results were in order of GCSE percentage then the order would have been different.

Also I don't subscribe to the Times but how old are these results? I ask as one column is supposed to be A level % but KES don't even do A levels..... :roll: :wink:
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Well my comments were meant to actually be helpful for those trying to interpret the results above which, IMO shouldn't just be taken at face value.

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Hear, hear!

These tables must be at least year out of date and without progress measures are totally meaningless. None of these tables tell you how your own child will perform 5 or 7 years ahead and indeed there will have been major exam changes by then.
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I think the repeated posting of tables (even under different usernames :lol: ) may be a way of reaffirming someone's own choice :wink: .

Personally, the only affirmation I need is simply looking at my happy children, thank god, rather than some statistical analysis as statistics are always flawed, hence my earlier post.
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Horses for courses I suppose; my children are also happy thanks to allah as well. They prefer to be pushed in studies as opposed to the alternatives on offer.
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