The hardest/most competitive schools for 11+ entry?
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The hardest/most competitive schools for 11+ entry?
Just out of complete curiosity, which schools are the hardest to get into? Which ones are the most competitve etc? I'm talking about the whole country rather than just one area.
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This article from last November
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... runch.html
may prove interesting
Usually each local authority will have figures for their own schools, probably in the admissions booklet
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... runch.html
may prove interesting
Usually each local authority will have figures for their own schools, probably in the admissions booklet
Hi
To answer this question you need to consider the complexity of the tests or the pass mark for the tests.
The most difficult state grammar schools to attain a place should be those that provide the most difficult tests i.e. Verbal Reasoning, Non-Verbal Reasoning, English and Mathematics were a student needs to perform well across all four subjects.
However, Bucks grammar schools are difficult because the format of their tests is so easy that any decent private tutor should be able to successfully coach children for the tests. This makes the pass mark for Bucks grammar schools unusually high at around 86% or above.
You also need to consider whether the student is taking the tests in-area when there is automatic acceptance on attaining a pass mark, or whether the student is out-of-area when other factors are applied. Some out-of-area students attain higher scores than in-area pupils and are not offered places.
Regards
Mike
To answer this question you need to consider the complexity of the tests or the pass mark for the tests.
The most difficult state grammar schools to attain a place should be those that provide the most difficult tests i.e. Verbal Reasoning, Non-Verbal Reasoning, English and Mathematics were a student needs to perform well across all four subjects.
However, Bucks grammar schools are difficult because the format of their tests is so easy that any decent private tutor should be able to successfully coach children for the tests. This makes the pass mark for Bucks grammar schools unusually high at around 86% or above.
You also need to consider whether the student is taking the tests in-area when there is automatic acceptance on attaining a pass mark, or whether the student is out-of-area when other factors are applied. Some out-of-area students attain higher scores than in-area pupils and are not offered places.
Regards
Mike
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However....Mike wrote:Hi
However, Bucks grammar schools are difficult because the format of their tests is so easy that any decent private tutor should be able to successfully coach children for the tests. This makes the pass mark for Bucks grammar schools unusually high at around 86% or above.
Regards Mike
I regard myself as quite a good/experienced tutor, but I cannot [and will not] flog a dead horse. Just an average child could NOT be coached to pass the test. They can be taught by rote for the codes and maths but they would be unable to cope with the spelling/vocab and certainly would have trouble with timings.
Patricia
Well as others have said, it usually depends on so many different things....
"Hardest to get into" suggests the most over-subscribed. In my area (SW Herts) Parmiter's has about 1200 applications for 185 places. BUT - only 45 of these are awarded on academic grounds; the rest are a mixture of siblings / proximity /music etc. So I'm guessing that around 1000 childen are hoping to be one of the 45.
That's pretty tough - but only in line with the other partially selective schools round here. I'm sure it's equally as tough elsewhere.
"Hardest to get into" suggests the most over-subscribed. In my area (SW Herts) Parmiter's has about 1200 applications for 185 places. BUT - only 45 of these are awarded on academic grounds; the rest are a mixture of siblings / proximity /music etc. So I'm guessing that around 1000 childen are hoping to be one of the 45.
That's pretty tough - but only in line with the other partially selective schools round here. I'm sure it's equally as tough elsewhere.