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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:39 am 
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I live in Herts where we only have a few partially selective schools - hence there are very few academic places available. I often hear parents who, when their child has sadly missed out, say "but s/he is expected to get all level 5s" or even that they have already achieved this in year 5.
My question is - is this really that unusual? I wouldn't be surprised if 25-30% of kids do this. To win an academic place in Herts you probably have to be in the top 5% (these statistics are all made up by me not official!).

Does anyone know?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:56 am 
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Found this on teachernet...

The proportion of pupils achieving Level 5 at the end of Key Stage 2 has increased significantly: from 16 to 32 per cent in English between 1997 and 2006; and from 18 to 33 per cent in mathematics between 1997 and 2006.]


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:01 am 
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Thanks YoYo - that's even higher than I thought. So being level 5 can't really count for much in an appeal (not in Herts anyway).


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:19 pm 
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some schools (inc some independents) get 90%+, I seem to remember a few years back that the range for a 5 in maths (out of 100) was 65 ish to 100 - quite a lot of the kids got 95+ hence a "5" covers a big range of results.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:34 pm 
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5 is subdivided into a, b, c

a being highest.

Far fewer children get level 5 in year 5.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:32 pm 
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Three level 5s is rarer - that why you really need 3 level 5 predicted and high 5s if possible.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:40 am 
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I understand that there is a level 6 sats paper they can do at ks2. Does anyone know anything about this? Might make life a bit less boring for DD and her friends for the next few weeks!


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The level 6 sats paper doesn't exist anymore. level 5a is the highest which can be acheived at KS2


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:31 pm 
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Hi Yoyo

Do you know when the Level 6 paper ceased to exist?

Thanks.


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These figures make sense actually why some children are not 'passing' the 11+ but are in level 5. In kent, (not sure about other areas) the aim of the 11+ is to select the top 25% of the cohort. Therefore if 30% or so are achieving these 5's, there will be some who don't get through.
Rather than assuming 'my child is working in level 5 he should pass the 11+' I would recommend 'my child is working in level 5 so he can have a go at the 11+'.


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