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 Post subject: Re: This Sep Exam Status
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:09 am 
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If you look at the admissions policy for any school you are interested in it will detail how places are allocated. https://www.schoolsofkingedwardvi.co.uk ... licy-2020/

Picking one Policy at random (my bold for emphasis)

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Applicants are required to sit an entrance test and must achieve the qualifying score in order to be eligible for admission to the school. Where the number of eligible applications for admission exceeds the number of places available at the school, places are offered as follows:
1. Looked After Children / Previously Looked After Children who achieve the qualifying score. Applicants in this category will be ranked by test score and then by distance from the school.
2. Children attracting the Pupil Premium who achieve the qualifying score and live within the school catchment area*. Applicants in this category will be ranked by distance from the school.
3. If fewer than 38 places (25% of the PAN) are filled by applicants in category 2, offers will be made to children attracting the Pupil Premium who achieve the qualifying score and live outside the catchment area, until a total of 38 children attracting the Pupil Premium have been offered. If 38 or more places are filled by applicants in category 2, there will be no offers made from this category. Applicants in this category will be ranked by test score. Where scores are equal, priority will be given to those with a sibling** at the school; then by distance from the school.
4. Applicants who achieve the priority score and live within the school catchment area*. Applicants in this category will be given priority if they have an older sibling** at the school; then ranked by distance from the school.
5. Applicants achieving the qualifying score. Applicants in this category will be ranked by test score. Where scores are equal, priority will be given to those with a sibling** at the school; then ranked by distance from the school.


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 Post subject: Re: This Sep Exam Status
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:21 am 
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Hi. Are you asking what the priority score is (224) or what is meant by the priority score?
If it’s the latter the Birmingham grammars (Sutton Coldfield schools excepted) have two scores. The qualifying score (205) and the priority score (224). Children who are in receipt of pupil premium are guaranteed an offer if they attain the qualifying score. Non PP children who score 224 (and above) are then offered places at their catchment school according to distance. For 2020 entrance quite a few in catchment children where not offered places at KEFW and CHB even though they had reached the priority score because there were too many non PP children living closer.

https://www.birminghamgrammarschools.or ... and-offers


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 Post subject: Re: This Sep Exam Status
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:24 pm 
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It was the case that not all in catchment children achieving the priority score were offered a place on 1st March. However, it appears that both CHB and KEFW did offer to cat 5 before the start of term so eventually all in catchment were accomodated. The rise in the priority score for 2021 entry should hopefully resolve this but increased PP numbers may upset the predictions.


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 Post subject: Re: This Sep Exam Status
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:51 pm 
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msquantity can you please confirm that all cat 4 children who gained priority score did in fact gain place at CHB last year.

Nella did your DC get entry into Fiveway s . I understand that your DC managed priority score but due to distance from school was not initially offered a place. Hope that is not the case anymore and that your DC is enjoying start of term at 5 ways.

On a related note does anyone have figures for the amount of children's who sat test last year per catchment school? Or the amount of application s received per catchment school?
Thank s in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: This Sep Exam Status
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:11 pm 
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This was posted on another thread.
'One of friend’s son has been offered Camphill boys yesterday but they have declined the offer. 268 out of catchment non pp'. So CHB have got to cat 5. For 5 ways I know someone on the edge of catchment and they got an offer at the end of july.
There was some great stats published on applicants by catchment/nos achieving priority score/no of pp achieving qualifying score etc etc. These came through before completing the school application form. Unfortunaly the links on the other threads don't go to the page anymore but would guess similar info will be released for the 2020 test results


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 Post subject: Re: This Sep Exam Status
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:55 am 
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msquantity wrote:
This was posted on another thread.
'One of friend’s son has been offered Camphill boys yesterday but they have declined the offer. 268 out of catchment non pp'. So CHB have got to cat 5. )

Interesting. That implies that all children achieving Priority Score in Cat. 4 were offered a place.

By the same token, will all children achieving priority score in cat 4 this year likely to be offered a place. Sorry I know it's probably a question for the crystal ball...



Are there any stats that anyone has come across which outlines number of applicants who sat the exam last year (1st year of catchments) and also a breakdown of prospective applicants in each category cat 1 to 5?

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 Post subject: Re: This Sep Exam Status
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:10 am 
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https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/downloads/file/17126/secondary_schools_admission_arrangements_2021

This gives the total number of applicants for each school for the past 3 years, although not all the info you are looking for.

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 Post subject: Re: This Sep Exam Status
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:21 am 
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Interesting statistics. I had thought that the Sutton Coldfield schools would have seen an increase in applications but they both had fewer people ranking it 1-6 than in previous years.

As I recall, the more specific information which includes number of PP and non PP children who have achieved the qualifying and priority score, was released by the Foundation around the same time as the results.

The information will give you an idea of how many non PP/ PP children are in catchment and have reached the required scores. Last year we knew that there would be more in catchment non PP children than places at KEFW. Fortunately a place was offered as soon as the 1st lot of offers were rejected.

I seem to remember that, apart from CHB and KEFW, the other schools had more places than catchment ‘priority scorers’ even when all the in catchment PP children were accommodated. At those schools you would have been confident of getting a place if priority score had been reached.


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 Post subject: Re: This Sep Exam Status
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:07 pm 
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Nella wrote:

I seem to remember that, apart from CHB and KEFW, the other schools had more places than catchment ‘priority scorers’ even when all the in catchment PP children were accommodated. At those schools you would have been confident of getting a place if priority score had been reached.


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Also there were 57 PP applicants achieving the qualifying score for CHB (big increase from 2019 numbers) but oddly only 27 for FW which meant they needed to offer OOC PP to get to their 25% allocation.
And of course this data represented everyone who took the exam so some won't be able to prove PPstatus/have selected that school/opted for private or moved away.


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 Post subject: Re: This Sep Exam Status
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:09 am 
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msquantity wrote:
Nella wrote:

I seem to remember that, apart from CHB and KEFW, the other schools had more places than catchment ‘priority scorers’ even when all the in catchment PP children were accommodated. At those schools you would have been confident of getting a place if priority score had ben reached.


Correct
Also there were 57 PP applicants achieving the qualifying score for CHB (big increase from 2019 numbers) but oddly only 27 for FW which meant they needed to offer OOC PP to get to their 25% allocation.
And of course this data represented everyone who took the exam so some won't be able to prove PPstatus/have selected that school/opted for private or moved away.


Theoretical question: CH will be admitting 120 boys for Sept 2021 and at least 30% of places (36 places) will be offered to Cat 2 and/or Cat 3 who achieve Qualifying Score. If say 70 children from Cat 2 achieve the Qualifying Score does that mean ONLY 50 places will remain for Cat 4 children?

For the Year 7 Sept 2020 cohort it appears 38% if the intake was from Cat 2 based on 57 PP application offers.


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