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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:29 pm 
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Hi

What do you think?

I was considering for DC the Walsall exams as I understand that they come first in time, but would welcome views. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:04 pm 
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Unless you actually are considering applying to Walsall schools, please don’t.

For one it is completely selfish as it costs state schools a fortune to administer tests for huge numbers of people who have no desire or chance to get into their school. Money that comes out of education budgets that are being cut - as you do it to Walsall schools, others will do similar to a school that your child may want to go to - so it will affect them to.

CEM does say that you can only take one CEM test. You run the risk of that result being the only one they will accept - but it will not be accepted by other areas who will have a slightly different test. You would have to check this very carefully.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:21 pm 
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I am presuming that you are talking about next year? As far as I am aware the test dates have not been released yet. It used the be that Walsall exams were in July and a lot of parents would use it as a mock. As a result of this the exam in now in September and may in fact be after the Birmingham exam.
Not only would it be pointless but also, as already pointed out, a waste of tax payers money. The Walsall exam is also on a school day so they also miss out on a day at school. There are plenty of mock exams available at a reasonable cost that also provide feedback.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 1:24 pm 
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kenyancowgirl wrote:
CEM does say that you can only take one CEM test. You run the risk of that result being the only one they will accept - but it will not be accepted by other areas who will have a slightly different test. You would have to check this very carefully.


Has this changed recently? My children have taken both the Walsall and Birmingham exams as we are on the border for both. My DS will be taking the exams next year. Is it just one that they do now?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:14 pm 
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I think it may only apply to schools which use exactly the same test, e.g. Birmingham and Warwickshire, the Reading / Slough / Glos / Redbridge / Chelmsford County High grouping?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 2:28 pm 
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Yes, for the same grouping which, whilst it does not affect Walsall currently, this could of course change by the time the OP's child takes the test - hence my warning that it needs to be checked very carefully!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 8:11 pm 
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Good point. I didn;t know that. I won;t do that.

Thanks :)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:26 pm 
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Do not listen to these people take both exams it gives your child the best possible chance of gaining a place at grammer school

At the exams you will see coach loads of people coming from all around the country to sit the exam with no intention of sending their children to a grammer here in Birmingham all for the practice

All my children sat both exams with the intention of gaining a place at Walsall or Birmingham


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:20 am 
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I wouldn't bother tbh, I did it with daughter back when Warks was a separate exam. Her Birmingham score was within half a point of her Warks score so it clearly made absolutely zero difference.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:22 pm 
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When we sat the test 2 years ago the Birmingham test was first (on a Sat) and the Walsall one 9 days later (a Monday).

My sons' scores were very different as I understand Birmingham is weighted more for English and Walsall for maths.

Just one thought, if you've no intention of going to Walsall then do you really want to put your child under all that stress. Because it is stressful on the day - hundreds of parents and kids.

I'd only do that if I thought we might want to go to that school.


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