AYLESBURY BOYS V THE LATIN
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AGS: KS2 to KS4 contextual value added measure 2006: 1011.6
RLS: KS2 to KS4 contextual value added measure 2006: 1008.8
........... but there seems to be quite a wide confidence band associated with value added figures.
http://www.dfes.gov.uk/cgi-bin/performa ... =1&Year=06
(click on school name for details)
RLS: KS2 to KS4 contextual value added measure 2006: 1008.8
........... but there seems to be quite a wide confidence band associated with value added figures.
http://www.dfes.gov.uk/cgi-bin/performa ... =1&Year=06
(click on school name for details)
Etienne
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Guest38
Guest 55 and Etienne,
Thank you both very much for info, although I am not sure I fully understand value-added
!! We are just waiting for the 2nd March and hoping that our son gets the school he wants - did once hear around our village, (and it may be what happened in the past at AGS with high VR scores like Guest55 outlined), that if your child had a successful appeal they would not have a chance at going to AGS as they were over subscribed with boys that had 121 or above! Have phoned admissions and they have reasssured me that all successful appeals go into the pot as if they had passed. The whole stress of the appeal process has left me rather pessimistic!!
Thank you both very much for info, although I am not sure I fully understand value-added
!! We are just waiting for the 2nd March and hoping that our son gets the school he wants - did once hear around our village, (and it may be what happened in the past at AGS with high VR scores like Guest55 outlined), that if your child had a successful appeal they would not have a chance at going to AGS as they were over subscribed with boys that had 121 or above! Have phoned admissions and they have reasssured me that all successful appeals go into the pot as if they had passed. The whole stress of the appeal process has left me rather pessimistic!!-
hugh
Whilst it's interesting (and useful for others) to discuss the relative merits of Aylesbury versus Royal Latin, to return to the original question:
If you have already submitted an application and you put Latin first choice and you are in catchment for Latin I presume your chances of getting into Aylesbury (which you say you are NOT in catchment for) are negligible.
Assuming your son is offered a place at your first choice of Latin, if you turn that down I'm not sure of your rights to choose anyother school.
Think about it from the LEA perspective: the selection and admission process is complicated enough, but if people could change their preferences after being offered places, the whole system would be chaotic!
So if I were you, I'd just read all the positive stuff about Latin and hope and assume your son will be offered that. If you feel ambivalent, that will rub off on your son, whereas you want his secondary transfer to be as smooth and good an experience as possible.
If you have already submitted an application and you put Latin first choice and you are in catchment for Latin I presume your chances of getting into Aylesbury (which you say you are NOT in catchment for) are negligible.
Assuming your son is offered a place at your first choice of Latin, if you turn that down I'm not sure of your rights to choose anyother school.
Think about it from the LEA perspective: the selection and admission process is complicated enough, but if people could change their preferences after being offered places, the whole system would be chaotic!
So if I were you, I'd just read all the positive stuff about Latin and hope and assume your son will be offered that. If you feel ambivalent, that will rub off on your son, whereas you want his secondary transfer to be as smooth and good an experience as possible.
The 'value added' or now 'contextual value added' (CVA) is a measure of the difference between a child or cohort progress, and the estimated expected progress of childrens with similar characteristics. If the difference is positive, the CVA score is above 1000, otherwise its is below.Thank you both very much for info, although I am not sure I fully understand value-added
Aylesbury's CVA is 1011.6(Edited), the Latin 1008.8, but considering the warning on confidence intervals, the difference may not be very significant.
See 'user guide' tab in:
http://www.dfes.gov.uk/cgi-bin/performa ... 50&Year=06
I also believe that the value added is a better indicator of school performance than straight results, but it is not an exact science, and I would be very surprised if the way it is calculated didn’t change over and over again in the future.
To confuse the issue, the CVA is based on any of the 8 best GCSEs, whereas the number of good GCSEs shows 5 A-Cs including maths and English, and the total number of points per pupils is based on all GCSEs.
There is no CVA for A levels at present (except the pilot) , only for GCSEs.
Catherine
I think you've quoted the wrong figure for AGS. The lower figure you've given is for Aylesbury High.
All the same, a very helpful post, shedding light on the mysteries of CVA
As you say, it's not an exact science, and I don't doubt that the rules for calculating it will change ..........
I think you've quoted the wrong figure for AGS. The lower figure you've given is for Aylesbury High.
All the same, a very helpful post, shedding light on the mysteries of CVA
As you say, it's not an exact science, and I don't doubt that the rules for calculating it will change ..........
Etienne
I was looking at value-added in core subjects where RLS outperforms AGS - so I would stick with your choice.
If your son's strengths and interests are Maths & Science this is RLS's specialist area - see website www.royallatin.bucks.sch.uk to see what they do.
If your son's strengths and interests are Maths & Science this is RLS's specialist area - see website www.royallatin.bucks.sch.uk to see what they do.
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