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Interpretation of SATs results for 12+

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:05 pm
by TA123
It says in the late transfer policy in Bucks that only children with 5s in both Math and English will be admitted for 12+ testing. We've got results this week and my child has 5 in Math, 5 in Reading and 4 in Writing. What does it mean in terms of 12+?

Re: Interpretation of SATs results for 12+

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:08 pm
by Guest55
There will be an overall level for English when it has been calculated. Before you had to get a level 5 in English and Mathematics; it's possible they could change the rules this year to separate level 5s for reading, writing and maths.

http://www.education.gov.uk/schools/tea ... sh-formula" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You can appeal against 'refusal to test' - what was the teacher assessment?

Re: Interpretation of SATs results for 12+

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:27 pm
by TA123
Guest55 wrote:There will be an overall level for English when it has been calculated. Before you had to get a level 5 in English and Mathematics; it's possible they could change the rules this year to separate level 5s for reading, writing and maths.

http://www.education.gov.uk/schools/tea ... sh-formula" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You can appeal against 'refusal to test' - what was the teacher assessment?
Thanks a lot for the response. Teacher assessment is as follows:

Speaking & listening 4
Reading 5
Writing 4

In Math Teacher assessment is 4 but test is 5.

Re: Interpretation of SATs results for 12+

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:35 pm
by Guest55
Ask the school to calculate an overall level for English - or ask for the reading score and calculate it yourself from the link above.

I don't think the 12+ rules (for the LA testing) have been posted yet - remember more schools are doing their own thing this year.

Re: Interpretation of SATs results for 12+

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:47 pm
by jabba7
Hi

Does anyone know if the grades are different for the actual exam and teacher assessment for SATs which will the secondary school use.

Many thanks

Re: Interpretation of SATs results for 12+

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:17 pm
by andyb
DS2's teacher assessment grades were almost identical to the exam grade - I think there was one sub-level difference in one subject. I would expect a secondary school to use the actual test result but if that is dramatically lower than the teacher assessment then they may accept a written explanation as to why.

Re: Interpretation of SATs results for 12+

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:14 pm
by crunchie
We got a level 5 in English but level 4 in Maths. Teacher assessment was level 5 in Maths. Will the teacher assessment be taken into account if we decide to appeal for Refusal to test?

Re: Interpretation of SATs results for 12+

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:31 pm
by Etienne
crunchie wrote:Will the teacher assessment be taken into account if we decide to appeal for Refusal to test?
If you ask the panel to take it into account, they will consider it.

It's up to the individual appeal panel just how much weight they give to any particular piece of evidence, but in the past they do seem to have been more generous with appeals 'to test'! :)

Re: Interpretation of SATs results for 12+

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:05 pm
by crunchie
Thanks you Etienne.

Re: Interpretation of SATs results for 12+

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:35 pm
by Guest55
Crunchie - try to get the mark - if it's a high level 4 then that will help.