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Mel
Interesting thought about winter children. My daughter's deputy head said she has never seen a Sept - Dec child get 141, but has seen plenty of May-Aug births get 141 in the same year, when the most clever children were always the Sept - Dec children, and yet they always achieved lower marks than the summer children.
That has always got her thinking and she said time after time she has tried to get the raw marks from the LEA but they would not divulge any information. She could understand why but just wanted to see why the brighter (older) children were achieving lower standardised scores.
My daughter was predicted 135 in the 11+, (she is an Oct birth) and they told us that they knew she could get all the questions right but going on past papers throughout the years, as no child from Sept-Dec had got 141 they thought 135 was about right!!
My friend's daughter (July birth) did not answer all her questions and she still got 141!!!!!!!!
Mel
That has always got her thinking and she said time after time she has tried to get the raw marks from the LEA but they would not divulge any information. She could understand why but just wanted to see why the brighter (older) children were achieving lower standardised scores.
My daughter was predicted 135 in the 11+, (she is an Oct birth) and they told us that they knew she could get all the questions right but going on past papers throughout the years, as no child from Sept-Dec had got 141 they thought 135 was about right!!
My friend's daughter (July birth) did not answer all her questions and she still got 141!!!!!!!!
Mel
Ummm sounds familiar to me Mel. 
My daughter passed the 11+ for this years intake, but North Yorks LEA only tells you the score if you fail???...................seems rather unfair to me??????
Anyway out of nine kids who took it from her school (my daughter's birthday is 17th October and her friends is in the middle of November)
They both Passed !!!
About five more of them were March to August birthdays and they failed the other two's were both in November aswell and they failed also.
So I think my daughter and her friend must have done exceptionally well.
We are so proud of them, they will be so disappointed if they don't get an offer on MARCH 1ST
Footymad.
My daughter passed the 11+ for this years intake, but North Yorks LEA only tells you the score if you fail???...................seems rather unfair to me??????
Anyway out of nine kids who took it from her school (my daughter's birthday is 17th October and her friends is in the middle of November)
They both Passed !!!
About five more of them were March to August birthdays and they failed the other two's were both in November aswell and they failed also.
So I think my daughter and her friend must have done exceptionally well.
We are so proud of them, they will be so disappointed if they don't get an offer on MARCH 1ST
Footymad.
Dear Mel/All
If there is a trend and I believe there is for less bright summer borns achieving higher scores than brighter winter borns proves the point that schools should NOT allocate on scores. All those very bright winter borns would not have got into some schools. eg William Borlase who notoriously took 141 downwards, leaving 121 up to sometimes 128s , living yards from the school without a place!
Of course this is all theory, but still interesting/infuriating.
Patricia
If there is a trend and I believe there is for less bright summer borns achieving higher scores than brighter winter borns proves the point that schools should NOT allocate on scores. All those very bright winter borns would not have got into some schools. eg William Borlase who notoriously took 141 downwards, leaving 121 up to sometimes 128s , living yards from the school without a place!
Of course this is all theory, but still interesting/infuriating.
Patricia
Seems a very convincing theory to me.
I think there needs to be an end to standardisation of scores.
I read somewhere recently that by year 3 primary younger slower learners have caught up to their older classmates anyway.
I do think older kids do have a slight disadvantage going into these tests.
Years ago some kids didn't start reception until after Christmas, but that doesn't happen anymore.(as far as I know)
They've all been at school the same length of time so standardisation should be scrapped in my opinion.
Footymad.
I think there needs to be an end to standardisation of scores.
I read somewhere recently that by year 3 primary younger slower learners have caught up to their older classmates anyway.
I do think older kids do have a slight disadvantage going into these tests.
Years ago some kids didn't start reception until after Christmas, but that doesn't happen anymore.(as far as I know)
They've all been at school the same length of time so standardisation should be scrapped in my opinion.
Footymad.
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Year 6 Parent
Winter Born Children
Dear Mel
Do you mind me asking what score your daughter actually got in the 11+. My daughter's birthday is in November and she got 118 and was predicted to get well over the 121.
Regards
Do you mind me asking what score your daughter actually got in the 11+. My daughter's birthday is in November and she got 118 and was predicted to get well over the 121.
Regards
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Mel
