Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM Test

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noonynunu
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Re: Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM T

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southbucks3 wrote:I bet if you looked at Henry Floyd/chesham school stats individually the ooc would he shockingly high, and from big distances too.
It will be interesting to see if there is a jump in OOC for Chesham Grammar in the next intake. SW Herts is likely to overflow into other areas and I would imagine that Chesham Grammar will be a main target.
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Re: Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM T

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SW Herts is likely to overflow into other areas and I would imagine that Chesham Grammar will be a main target.
I think it may have already happened. CGS was oversubscribed on Allocations Day for the first time ever.
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Re: Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM T

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Aylesbury has a massive catchment of children in county, although I agree chesham is on the borders.

Lord bills took very few from risborough this year, I have a friend appealing from a street that normally gets in, and from the other side if longwick is its catchment anyway. I have no idea how many it poaches from the stoke Mandeville/aylesbury area I confess.

Are there any stats per secondary school? I know aylesbury high published their intake stats a few years ago.
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Re: Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM T

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southbucks3 wrote:Are there any stats per secondary school? I know aylesbury high published their intake stats a few years ago.
AHS has a map on the school's website that shows where children are drawn from. Huge numbers from MK.

None of the other schools publish their stats, but DCGS and DCHS will be virtually 100% in-county.

The nearest guide we get on the topic is the Allocation Profile.
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Re: Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM T

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I know people in Henley who have been offered SWBGS and Maidenhead (out of catchment) who have WHS.

Edited to add Maidenhead people also have BHS
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Re: Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM T

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Sally-Anne wrote:
SW Herts is likely to overflow into other areas and I would imagine that Chesham Grammar will be a main target.
I think it may have already happened. CGS was oversubscribed on Allocations Day for the first time ever.
I don't understand why schools don't review their catchment areas regularly to ensure that the balance between inner catchment/outer catchment and OOC are maintained or do they already do this?
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Re: Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM T

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noonynunu wrote:
Sally-Anne wrote:
SW Herts is likely to overflow into other areas and I would imagine that Chesham Grammar will be a main target.
I think it may have already happened. CGS was oversubscribed on Allocations Day for the first time ever.
I don't understand why schools don't review their catchment areas regularly to ensure that the balance between inner catchment/outer catchment and OOC are maintained or do they already do this?
Bucks don't have inner / outer catchment - it's either catchment or not.
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Re: Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM T

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The fabulous mitasol has worked her magic on my spread-sheet and turned it into code. (Thank you so much, mitasol!)

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                2010 entry                       2011 entry                      2012 entry                      2013 entry                      2014 entry
                TestedQual  AppealTOTAL  %       TestedQual  AppealTOTAL %       TestedQual  AppealTOTAL %       TestedQual  AppealTOTAL %       TestedQual  AppealTOTAL %
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IN State        4749  1098  243   1341   28%     4630  1119  219   1338  29%     4526  1080  179   1259  28%     4532  1056  158   1214  27%     4798   935   ??    ??    
IN Partner       393   246   25    271   69%     365   232   23    255   70%     334   187   18    205   61%      ??    ??    ??    ??    ??      ??    ??    ??    ??    
TOTAL IN        5142  1344  268   1612   31%     4995  1351  242   1593  32%     4860  1267  197   1464  30%      ??    ??    ??    ??    ??      ??    ??    ??    ??    
OUT Partner      559   215   15    230   41%     539   215   15    230   43%     491   170   9     179   36%      ??    ??    ??    ??    ??      ??    ??    ??        
TOTAL PARTNER    952   461   40    501   53%     904   447   38    485   54%     825   357   27    384   47%     1030  512   31    543   53%      747  366    ??    ??    
OUT Other       1661   693   57    750   45%     1860  722   71    793   43%     2134  944   50    994   47%     1870  836   35    871   47%     2645  1119   ??    ??    
Total           7363  2253  340   2593   35%     7394  2288  328   2616  35%     7485  2381  256   2637  35%     7432  2404  224   2628  35%     8190  2420  342  2762  34%
As you can see, there is a significant gap in the information we have about Partner Schools in both 2013 and 2014.

I have used past data to extrapolate what those numbers might look like for 2013 and 2014 to give a fair reflection of the In/Out County split. Please note the following points:

:: The large decrease in OoC Partner School candidates and qualifiers reflects the fact that all the schools (8 of them) that have ceased to be Partner Schools since 2012 are OoC schools.

:: The 2014 Appeal figures are only for Reviews, and not Appeals + Reviews.

:: The term Partner Schools is not interchangeable with private schools for OoC children. My earlier post up-thread suggested that approximately 25% of OoC children form Partner Schools taking the test are from state schools, which explains the difference between the In & Out qualification rates for Partner School children.

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                             2013 entry                      2014 entry
                             TestedQual  AppealTOTAL %       TestedQual  AppealTOTAL %
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In County State schools      4532  1056  158   1214  27%     4798  935   236   1171  24%
In County Partner Schools    396   257   21    278   70%     364   222   27    249   68%
TOTAL IN COUNTY              4928  1313  179   1492  30%     5162  1157  263   1420  28%
Out County Partner Schools   634   255   10    265   42%     383   144   17    161   42%
TOTAL PARTNER SCHOOLS        1030  512   31    543   53%     747   366   30    410   55%
Out County Other Schools     1870  836   35    871   47%     2645  1119  62    1181  45%
Total                        7432  2404  224   2628  35%     8190  2420  342   2762  34%
noonynunu
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Re: Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM T

Post by noonynunu »

kittymum wrote: Bucks don't have inner / outer catchment - it's either catchment or not.
Sorry kittymum. I'm in Herts and I've only really looked at Chesham Grammar so didn't want to assume that all other schools in Bucks had the same arrangements.
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Re: Pass Rates at Bucks State Primary Schools with new CEM T

Post by scary mum »

Being on the edge of Bucks BGS has a huge number of OOC pupils. Mind you, Slough is in catchment although it isn't Bucks. I do think it's a shame for the children that ravel long distances.
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