feeling nervous!

[duffymoon]

I think there is some misunderstanding here about the standardisation process.

No marks are taken away from a child because of their birthday. The standardisation process works by comparing the performance of the cohort of children in each birth month and also is supposed to iron out any differences in difficulty of the tests between years. So September born children are standardised with other September children, October with October and so on through the year. It is theoretically possible that the cohort of children born in the following August could outperform the September children though I don't know if that has ever happened! There are no marks given or taken away in the standardisation process.

The Bucks test is not marks "out of 180" - that is merely the standardised score. 180 used to be the highest score in the old GL Assessment tests, though I think last year the scores went up to 199 or similar. The only constant is that the qualifying score remains 121.

I know at this stage it's very difficult to stop worrying but the wait will soon be over. Wishing you and your DCs all the very best.

Notwithstanding the above, surely it is still the case that an August born can pass with a lower raw score than a September born (In the old style Bucks 11+ and August born could pass scoring 66/67 whilst a September born would need 71/72) and therefore a September born needs to get more right than an August born ?

[thefirs]

Mine are via letter given out by the school on Friday !

You have 14 days I think to collate and get paper sent off, any meetings with head should be on Monday

[Tolstoy]

Gosh thefirs, glad I asked as that is quite tight timing wise. I guess the head and Y6 teachers make themselves available. When do they find out the results?

Roll on Friday

[Lillie]

I think there is some misunderstanding here about the standardisation process.

No marks are taken away from a child because of their birthday. The standardisation process works by comparing the performance of the cohort of children in each birth month and also is supposed to iron out any differences in difficulty of the tests between years. So September born children are standardised with other September children, October with October and so on through the year. It is theoretically possible that the cohort of children born in the following August could outperform the September children though I don't know if that has ever happened! There are no marks given or taken away in the standardisation process.

The Bucks test is not marks "out of 180" - that is merely the standardised score. 180 used to be the highest score in the old GL Assessment tests, though I think last year the scores went up to 199 or similar. The only constant is that the qualifying score remains 121.

I know at this stage it's very difficult to stop worrying but the wait will soon be over. Wishing you and your DCs all the very best.

Notwithstanding the above, surely it is still the case that an August born can pass with a lower raw score than a September born (In the old style Bucks 11+ and August born could pass scoring 66/67 whilst a September born would need 71/72) and therefore a September born needs to get more right than an August born ?

I didn't mean this post to get hijacked by yet another discussion on standardisation / summer born vs. autumn borns. However, the raw scores achieved by each child are only compared to those children of the same birth month - there is no pre-set penalisation of children for having been born at certain times of the year. They are simply compared to other children of the same age. If the raw scores are consistently lower for summer children, then you have to ask why and surely that is the proof of why standardisation is needed.

Anyway, I didn't mean the discussion to get off track, and I really wish all the parents and DCs the very best of luck.

In terms of when the results are sent, I was told last year that the headteachers receive the results as early as the Tuesday of the week they are published - that is today. I asked this question last year as we actually had a parents' evening this time last year so it was very awkward timing.

[Sally-Anne]

You have 14 days I think to collate and get paper sent off, any meetings with head should be on Monday

If you need to submit a Review case, the deadline is Friday 6th November. Although many Heads will have set aside time in their diaries on Monday to talk to parents of children who didn't qualify, not all of them will have done so, and meetings may be held later in the week.

I was told last year that the headteachers receive the results as early as the Tuesday of the week they are published - that is today.

The results will be delivered to schools by courier tomorrow, Wednesday.

[Tolstoy]

Thanks S-A,

Gosh Lillie did they give anything away They must all have had to practice poker faces in the staff room before hand

The stars being the word for a card game and an instrument that is used for stoking up fires.

[Lillie]

Gosh Lillie did they give anything away They must all have had to practice ***** faces in the staff room before hand

The stars being the word for a card game and an instrument that is used for stoking up fires.

No, nothing was given away. But we were left in the position of there being no point in going to the headteacher to discuss options - the results were only 3 days away, so it would have been a very awkward meeting.

[Newbie121]

Hi when you say that the Headteachers get the results, if you are OCC, does the primary school that my DC attend get the results too?

[Daffy]

You have 14 days I think to collate and get paper sent off, any meetings with head should be on Monday

If you need to submit a Review case, the deadline is Friday 6th November. Although many Heads will have set aside time in their diaries on Monday to talk to parents of children who didn't qualify, not all of them will have done so, and meetings may be held later in the week.

I was told last year that the headteachers receive the results as early as the Tuesday of the week they are published - that is today.

The results will be delivered to schools by courier tomorrow, Wednesday.

Is that correct Sally? If so does that mean we will get them today? Do the schools receive them in sealed individual envelopes addressed to the parents of the DC's or do they need to print out letter themselves?

[Daffy]

I think there is some misunderstanding here about the standardisation process.

No marks are taken away from a child because of their birthday. The standardisation process works by comparing the performance of the cohort of children in each birth month and also is supposed to iron out any differences in difficulty of the tests between years. So September born children are standardised with other September children, October with October and so on through the year. It is theoretically possible that the cohort of children born in the following August could outperform the September children though I don't know if that has ever happened! There are no marks given or taken away in the standardisation process.

The Bucks test is not marks "out of 180" - that is merely the standardised score. 180 used to be the highest score in the old GL Assessment tests, though I think last year the scores went up to 199 or similar. The only constant is that the qualifying score remains 121.

I know at this stage it's very difficult to stop worrying but the wait will soon be over. Wishing you and your DCs all the very best.

Notwithstanding the above, surely it is still the case that an August born can pass with a lower raw score than a September born (In the old style Bucks 11+ and August born could pass scoring 66/67 whilst a September born would need 71/72) and therefore a September born needs to get more right than an August born ?

I didn't mean this post to get hijacked by yet another discussion on standardisation / summer born vs. autumn borns. However, the raw scores achieved by each child are only compared to those children of the same birth month - there is no pre-set penalisation of children for having been born at certain times of the year. They are simply compared to other children of the same age. If the raw scores are consistently lower for summer children, then you have to ask why and surely that is the proof of why standardisation is needed.

Anyway, I didn't mean the discussion to get off track, and I really wish all the parents and DCs the very best of luck.

In terms of when the results are sent, I was told last year that the headteachers receive the results as early as the Tuesday of the week they are published - that is today. I asked this question last year as we actually had a parents' evening this time last year so it was very awkward timing.

Do the staff know the DC's scores then do you know? Are they sent in sealed envelopes to the schools or a list with results on? Parents evenings are this week before Friday! Seems very strange to have them before the results are in.